NetVibes?

31 Aug 2006 - 9:33am
7 years ago
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Leah Cunningham
2006

Hi all,

What do people think about the netvibes.com experience? Sure it gets
points for the coolness factor...

...

Leah Cunningham
Sr. Information Architect

Sequel Studio
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31 Aug 2006 - 11:01am
Robert Hoekman, Jr.
2005

> What do people think about the netvibes.com experience? Sure it gets
> points for the coolness factor...

Personally, I resent the experience of most start page apps.

1) They give you loads of content I don't want
2) It's too easy to delete something by accident because the trigger for
each module is right there, visible 100% of the time. (And on Netvibes, they
toss up a JS alert for confirmation - it's an implementation model design
and it's weak)
3) The deletion trigger should not be available 100% of the time, because
users are not likely to delete things very often.
4) Drag-n-drop is always available as well. While this is a cool and
necessary feature, it's unlikely people will rearrange modules very often
either, because it's more difficult than it's worth to memorize the new
version of the page once spatial memory kicks in.
5) They make for terrible RSS readers, but that has been a prime focus.
6) Standard and custom widgets often feature incredibly poorly-designed
interfaces.
7) Many of them do not have a way to simply create a bookmark list or make
notes to yourself, and when they do, they're clunkier than they need to be.
Again, poor interface design.
8) Netvibes in particular is very cluttered. a little white space would go a
long way. Put some padding into those modules, and increase the line height.

-r-

31 Aug 2006 - 12:35pm
Josh Seiden
2003

Well, it's easy to run these guys down, but I think
they've done a good job. Better than yahoo and google,
I think.

I love that I can start customizing my page without
signing in or creating an account. They offer a clear
value proposition--sign in to make your changes
portable--but they don't demand my email as a price of
admission.

The drag and drop just works. The drop targets are
nice. And the cost of an error is low, so why make it
a special mode?

Sure the delete confirmation is annoying--but that's a
quibble.

And I'm confused Bob by your complaints about bookmark
lists, todos, and notes. I added my del.icio.us
bookmarks, created a todo list, and create a note to
myself--all three together took about a minute and
required NO NAVIGATION.

I like how page titling, new tab creation work. All in
all, I think they've done a nice job of creating an
easily configurable page, one that doesn't require ANY
navigation to customize.

I might even switch... :)

JS

--- "Robert Hoekman, Jr." <rhoekmanjr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> > What do people think about the netvibes.com
> experience? Sure it gets
> > points for the coolness factor...
>
>
> Personally, I resent the experience of most start
> page apps.
>

31 Aug 2006 - 12:59pm
Robert Hoekman, Jr.
2005

> Well, it's easy to run these guys down, but I think
> they've done a good job. Better than yahoo and google,
> I think.

As I always say, "Better by comparison does not equal good." But that's just
me.

The drag and drop just works. The drop targets are
> nice. And the cost of an error is low, so why make it
> a special mode?

The cost is raised when you accidentally start dragging things often. To me,
the page just feels ... unstable. Like everything is a potential accident.
Could partly be because the RSS reader widget shakes as it opens. Could be
the OCD. :)

And I'm confused Bob by your complaints about bookmark
> lists, todos, and notes.

Don't mean to be anal, but it's Robert, not Bob. Thanks.

Navigation isn't the issue for me. It's, particularly in Netvibes, that
there are four accordion panels involved in the simple task of adding a
bookmark, tagging is an option (and I'm not even sure why because they don't
explain how this would be helpful on a single start page), you have to add
the Bookmarks module to the page via Add Content and then click Add To My
Page to *really* add it, and finally, I can't rename the Bookmarks module so
that it means something to me.

In other words, they give me all kinds of stuff to do, but it'snot the stuff
I *want* to do.

-r-

31 Aug 2006 - 1:55pm
jay hilwig
2006

I've been evaluating aggregator type 'portals' on a non-professional level
for some time. These are high level factors for me.

GOOGLE* NETVIBES START.COM POPURLS.COM
Readability 7 5 8 8
Interme. Info. 4 7 7 9
Load time 8 6 8 8
Personalization 9 8 6 n/a

* Google Personalized Home

>>> Comments <<<
>Readability- both start and popurls offer quick customization on primary
page. Popurls horiz. lines are helpful to distinguish row data.
>Intermediate Information- (Before I jump from the link, give me more
information beyond the headline, but not the entire article). Generally
tooltips, Start.com loses a bit on lack of tooltip persistence.
>Load time- All load very quickly, personalized modules (for instance gmail)
may cause lag. Definite perceived lag with netvibes.
>Personalization- Start.com loses points for ease of personalization, "beta"
looking UI. Google has better/best UX. Popurls does not offer customization
as far as what modules one can add/delete which I feel is both positive and
negative. There is no set-up required (time investment) to push a user away
from the page.

>>> Other potential factors <<<
>"Freshness" (refresh of information)- some offer refresh customization
>Direct to source- skip the comments/blog, and send me straight to the
article
>Standards compliance- CSS and/or expected behavior relative to my OS (ie..
tooltips, dialogs)
>RSS- set-up & reading ease

31 Aug 2006 - 4:54pm
russwilson
2005

Regarding comment #5 below, what *does* make a good RSS reader?
(just curious for opinions on this)

Russ

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> What do people think about the netvibes.com experience? Sure it gets
> points for the coolness factor...

Personally, I resent the experience of most start page apps.

1) They give you loads of content I don't want
2) It's too easy to delete something by accident because the trigger for
each module is right there, visible 100% of the time. (And on Netvibes,
they toss up a JS alert for confirmation - it's an implementation model
design and it's weak)
3) The deletion trigger should not be available 100% of the time,
because users are not likely to delete things very often.
4) Drag-n-drop is always available as well. While this is a cool and
necessary feature, it's unlikely people will rearrange modules very
often either, because it's more difficult than it's worth to memorize
the new version of the page once spatial memory kicks in.
5) They make for terrible RSS readers, but that has been a prime focus.
6) Standard and custom widgets often feature incredibly poorly-designed
interfaces.
7) Many of them do not have a way to simply create a bookmark list or
make notes to yourself, and when they do, they're clunkier than they
need to be.
Again, poor interface design.
8) Netvibes in particular is very cluttered. a little white space would
go a long way. Put some padding into those modules, and increase the
line height.

-r-
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