Apple TV

12 Jan 2007 - 4:34pm
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Robert Hoekman, Jr.
2005

With all the hype over the iPhone, why is it that the Apple TV has gone so
.... unnoticed?

My wife envisions a future where her computer and television are one. You
simply download shows and movies - whatever you want - and watch them when
you want, using the same screen, the same box, the same account. Always tied
to you, so if you move or buy a new console, it doesn't matter, it's all
still yours. Bored with Law and Order? Check your email with the wireless
keyboard. (Not, this is not WebTV. And yes, my wife is pretty cool.)

The Apple TV brings us a small step closer to this. Buy stuff on iTunes, it
synchs automatically over wireless with the Apple TV, and you're golden.

This is an excellent piece of interaction design, especially since it
requires almost no actual interaction beyond what we all normally do
already. Why isn't anyone on this list talking about that?

Just seems odd. It's great that we're having so many heated discussions
about Apple and UCD and the iPhone design and tactile buttons, because
debates like those are what make this list so valuable, but why are not also
looking at the Apple TV?

-r-

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12 Jan 2007 - 5:15pm
Lorne Trudeau
2006

Good point Robert ... particularly because I'm FAR more likely to
actually purchase the Apply TV than I am the iPhone. I've been waiting
for a good implementation of this product ever since I moved into my new
home and my computer was forced to live 40 feet away from my TV.

The best interactions are no interactions! And on that note, here's a
t-shirt with a sleeping robot:
http://shop.gawker.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=LFT02

Why? Why not?

Lorne

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Robert Hoekman, Jr.
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Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Apple TV

With all the hype over the iPhone, why is it that the Apple TV has gone
so
.... unnoticed?

13 Jan 2007 - 12:47am
dszuc
2005

With this ongoing reliance on the PC as the entertainment hub, look forward
to the one button backup that saves all my critical data.

So if the PC crashes, it will be mirrored safely and in real time on another
box. Google? Apple? Or does this already exist?

Rgds,

Daniel Szuc
Principal Usability Consultant
Apogee Usability Asia Ltd
www.apogeehk.com
'Usability in Asia'

The Usability Toolkit - http://www.sitepoint.com/books/usability1/

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To: IxDA Discuss
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Apple TV

With all the hype over the iPhone, why is it that the Apple TV has gone so
.... unnoticed?

My wife envisions a future where her computer and television are one. You
simply download shows and movies - whatever you want - and watch them when
you want, using the same screen, the same box, the same account. Always tied
to you, so if you move or buy a new console, it doesn't matter, it's all
still yours. Bored with Law and Order? Check your email with the wireless
keyboard. (Not, this is not WebTV. And yes, my wife is pretty cool.)

The Apple TV brings us a small step closer to this. Buy stuff on iTunes, it
synchs automatically over wireless with the Apple TV, and you're golden.

This is an excellent piece of interaction design, especially since it
requires almost no actual interaction beyond what we all normally do
already. Why isn't anyone on this list talking about that?

Just seems odd. It's great that we're having so many heated discussions
about Apple and UCD and the iPhone design and tactile buttons, because
debates like those are what make this list so valuable, but why are not also
looking at the Apple TV?

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13 Jan 2007 - 9:52am
.pauric
2006

" Bored with Law and Order? Check your email with the wireless keyboard."

To me there are two factors that make this impractical. TVs and the viewer
have a larger distance between them in most living rooms. Email sort of
requires the reader to be close to the screen. Why not make the text
bigger? I think the second factor is security, would you feel comfortable
checking all your email with your kids running around in front of the TV?

13 Jan 2007 - 11:05am
Robert Hoekman, Jr.
2005

> I think the second factor is security, would you feel comfortable
> checking all your email with your kids running around in front of the TV?

Yeah, the email thing doesn't make much sense. But the rest of it -
like the possibility of getting "people who watched this also watched
..." recommendations on your television is beautiful.

-r-

13 Jan 2007 - 1:35pm
.pauric
2006

Bring social features in to a social environment. 'Netflix' where it truly
should be, open conversations about what to get next. Groups of friends
browsing other friends profiles on myspace, checking out some youtube shorts
while the ads are on, pulling down music from the 'house' library to your
iphone.

On 1/13/07, Robert Hoekman, Jr. <rhoekmanjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think the second factor is security, would you feel comfortable
> > checking all your email with your kids running around in front of the
> TV?
>
> Yeah, the email thing doesn't make much sense. But the rest of it -
> like the possibility of getting "people who watched this also watched
> ..." recommendations on your television is beautiful.
>
> -r-
>

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The more I learn, the less I seem to know.

12 Jan 2007 - 5:10pm
Casey Krub
2007

Hi -

I was having this same Apple TV conversation with some co-workers.. with the
added facet of how the major game consoles (Xbox 360, Wii & Playstation) are
blurring the lines of computer & TV, as well.

I think it's interesting that there is not much buzz about this idea.

Access Xbox Live via an Xbox 360 console and it looks more and more like
iTunes all the time (in my opinion). TV shows and movies to download, music
videos have been available for awhile.

I also think it's interesting that Apple has been steering clear of video
games. Casual games have been recently introduced in iTunes for video
iPods, but as a whole Apple platforms are not known as gamer friendly.

Why is this? Does someone know the history?

What does this lack of games mean to folks interested in the whole
TV/Computer appliance? Is this going to give the game consoles an edge in
this TV/Computer space? or not matter in the least?

Here is an article from Mercury News where Gates talks about Xbox 360 being
IPTV ready.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/01/bill_gates_inte.html

Quoting Gates from the article:

And he noted that Apple doesn't necessarily have the best relationships with
companies such as phone service providers as Microsoft does. So its iTV
service may not be as expansive as anything Microsoft does with its
partners.

Casey

On 1/12/07, Robert Hoekman, Jr. <rhoekmanjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> With all the hype over the iPhone, why is it that the Apple TV has gone so
> .... unnoticed?
>
> My wife envisions a future where her computer and television are one. You
> simply download shows and movies - whatever you want - and watch them when
> you want, using the same screen, the same box, the same account. Always
> tied
> to you, so if you move or buy a new console, it doesn't matter, it's all
> still yours. Bored with Law and Order? Check your email with the wireless
> keyboard. (Not, this is not WebTV. And yes, my wife is pretty cool.)
>
> The Apple TV brings us a small step closer to this. Buy stuff on iTunes,
> it
> synchs automatically over wireless with the Apple TV, and you're golden.
>
> This is an excellent piece of interaction design, especially since it
> requires almost no actual interaction beyond what we all normally do
> already. Why isn't anyone on this list talking about that?
>
> Just seems odd. It's great that we're having so many heated discussions
> about Apple and UCD and the iPhone design and tactile buttons, because
> debates like those are what make this list so valuable, but why are not
> also
> looking at the Apple TV?
>
> -r-
> ________________________________________________________________
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13 Jan 2007 - 3:00pm
.pauric
2006

Robert, you've hit of a very key area of what will make a successful 'media
center' to give its existing label, but this will change. You said "This is
an excellent piece of interaction design, especially since it requires
almost no actual interaction beyond what we all normally do already."

I've wondered, asked and found out that some of my smartest friends will
watch the most mind numblingly banal programming because they want to
'switch off for a half hour'. Webtv and interactive satellite programing
has not taken off, as far as I'm aware, because it is too interactive when
people simply just want to tune in, turn off and drop out.

If I were given a hand in naming the iTV I'd call it the iNet. An
abbreviated flavour of the full internet.. with a 'dont make me think'
approach taken to a whole new level. And apple is probably probably the
only folks that can pull that off too... OSX's style intuitivness applied to
a greater degree on a core set of applications that belong in the living
room environment.

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