[JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute[RECRUITER]

2 Aug 2007 - 9:26am
7 years ago
10 replies
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Tubman, Wahne
2004

Curious to know how many people on this list are extremely proficient in
all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer, Usability Engineer)
highlighted in this post?

Typically in my experience I find that it is rare to find these 3
different skill sets wrapped into just one person with equal degree of
proficiency.

Is this a realistic request - And individual who is highly proficient in
C++ and Java and Color theory and Design principles - ?

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
Beau Gould
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
To: IA
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface Developer -
Telecommute[RECRUITER]

[JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute [RECRUITER]

Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA

Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash compensation, with the
opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and equity compensation.

My client is an early-stage startup founded by entrepreneurs and senior
executives from the financial services and e-commerce industries. Their
vision is to become a leading technology platform company with an
initial
focus on electronically traded markets.

They are seeking an ambitious User Interface Developer with 3-5 years
programming experience - and an intuitive sense of beauty -- to build a
real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.

Required Skills:

* Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of design principles,
composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
* Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames skills and a strong
interest in
user interface design.
* Data driven UI experience (using XML, web services, databases). MySQL
experience a plus.
* Experience designing modular, object-oriented JavaScript and
ActionScript.

* Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
* Experience with Linux and Windows.
* Familiarity with high-performance trading applications.
* Strong interest in prototyping applications, creative concepts and
online
mock ups using rapid iteration.
* Knowledge of full life-cycle development (analysis, design,
construction,
implementation).
* Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
* Data driven UI experience using XML, web services, databases.
* Good written and verbal communication skills. Strong work ethic.
* Online portfolio of work required.

If you are interested in this position, please submit your resume or
portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your skills/experience
as it
pertains to this job to beau at open-source-staffing.com

Thank you,
Beau J. Gould

Open Source Staffing
www.open-source-staffing.com
beau at open-source-staffing.com

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2 Aug 2007 - 9:37am
mtumi
2004

don't forget a familiarity with high-performance trading applications.

I think this person grew up in an artistic family, painting at an
early age, and mastering composition and color theory by age 10.
however, by middle school he/she became disillusioned with art,
immersed themselves in computers, and spent through high school into
college up late at night hacking away at unix machines. only to
find, in the last year of school they didn't want to actually do
programming, so proceeded to get a masters in usability engineering.
however, the career path wasn't lucrative enough, so he/she actually
decided to become a broker after finally getting out of school. et
voila! I sure hope they're reading this list...

On Aug 2, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Tubman, Wahne wrote:

> Curious to know how many people on this list are extremely
> proficient in
> all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer, Usability Engineer)
> highlighted in this post?
>
> Typically in my experience I find that it is rare to find these 3
> different skill sets wrapped into just one person with equal degree of
> proficiency.
>
>
> Is this a realistic request - And individual who is highly
> proficient in
> C++ and Java and Color theory and Design principles - ?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
> Beau Gould
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
> To: IA
> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface Developer -
> Telecommute[RECRUITER]
>
> [JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute [RECRUITER]
>
> Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA
>
> Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash compensation, with the
> opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and equity compensation.
>
> My client is an early-stage startup founded by entrepreneurs and
> senior
> executives from the financial services and e-commerce industries.
> Their
> vision is to become a leading technology platform company with an
> initial
> focus on electronically traded markets.
>
> They are seeking an ambitious User Interface Developer with 3-5 years
> programming experience - and an intuitive sense of beauty -- to
> build a
> real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.
>
> Required Skills:
>
> * Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of design principles,
> composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
> * Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames skills and a strong
> interest in
> user interface design.
> * Data driven UI experience (using XML, web services, databases).
> MySQL
> experience a plus.
> * Experience designing modular, object-oriented JavaScript and
> ActionScript.
>
> * Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
> * Experience with Linux and Windows.
> * Familiarity with high-performance trading applications.
> * Strong interest in prototyping applications, creative concepts and
> online
> mock ups using rapid iteration.
> * Knowledge of full life-cycle development (analysis, design,
> construction,
> implementation).
> * Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
> * Data driven UI experience using XML, web services, databases.
> * Good written and verbal communication skills. Strong work ethic.
> * Online portfolio of work required.
>
> If you are interested in this position, please submit your resume or
> portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your skills/experience
> as it
> pertains to this job to beau at open-source-staffing.com
>
> Thank you,
> Beau J. Gould
>
> Open Source Staffing
> www.open-source-staffing.com
> beau at open-source-staffing.com
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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2 Aug 2007 - 9:48am
Akanowicz Ron
2005

That was funny.

I see this a lot on job boards- search for "usability," and a good
number of the results will really be for programmers- the employers
just hope to find someone with just enough understanding of usability
so as to avoid having to hire and pay another person.

Regardless, even if a programmer _knows_ usability, when would he
find the time?
If the employer is too tight to hire a usability person why would he
let a programmer coordinate usability studies? Ridiculous.

Ron Akanowicz
Usability Consultant
786-853-1666

ron at softerwareconsulting.com
www.softerwareconsulting.com

On Aug 2, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Michael Tuminello wrote:

> don't forget a familiarity with high-performance trading applications.
>
> I think this person grew up in an artistic family, painting at an
> early age, and mastering composition and color theory by age 10.
> however, by middle school he/she became disillusioned with art,
> immersed themselves in computers, and spent through high school into
> college up late at night hacking away at unix machines. only to
> find, in the last year of school they didn't want to actually do
> programming, so proceeded to get a masters in usability engineering.
> however, the career path wasn't lucrative enough, so he/she actually
> decided to become a broker after finally getting out of school. et
> voila! I sure hope they're reading this list...
>
>
> On Aug 2, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Tubman, Wahne wrote:
>
>> Curious to know how many people on this list are extremely
>> proficient in
>> all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer, Usability Engineer)
>> highlighted in this post?
>>
>> Typically in my experience I find that it is rare to find these 3
>> different skill sets wrapped into just one person with equal
>> degree of
>> proficiency.
>>
>>
>> Is this a realistic request - And individual who is highly
>> proficient in
>> C++ and Java and Color theory and Design principles - ?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
>> Beau Gould
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
>> To: IA
>> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface Developer -
>> Telecommute[RECRUITER]
>>
>> [JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute [RECRUITER]
>>
>> Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA
>>
>> Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash compensation, with the
>> opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and equity compensation.
>>
>> My client is an early-stage startup founded by entrepreneurs and
>> senior
>> executives from the financial services and e-commerce industries.
>> Their
>> vision is to become a leading technology platform company with an
>> initial
>> focus on electronically traded markets.
>>
>> They are seeking an ambitious User Interface Developer with 3-5 years
>> programming experience - and an intuitive sense of beauty -- to
>> build a
>> real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.
>>
>> Required Skills:
>>
>> * Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of design principles,
>> composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
>> * Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames skills and a strong
>> interest in
>> user interface design.
>> * Data driven UI experience (using XML, web services, databases).
>> MySQL
>> experience a plus.
>> * Experience designing modular, object-oriented JavaScript and
>> ActionScript.
>>
>> * Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
>> * Experience with Linux and Windows.
>> * Familiarity with high-performance trading applications.
>> * Strong interest in prototyping applications, creative concepts and
>> online
>> mock ups using rapid iteration.
>> * Knowledge of full life-cycle development (analysis, design,
>> construction,
>> implementation).
>> * Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
>> * Data driven UI experience using XML, web services, databases.
>> * Good written and verbal communication skills. Strong work ethic.
>> * Online portfolio of work required.
>>
>> If you are interested in this position, please submit your resume or
>> portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your skills/
>> experience
>> as it
>> pertains to this job to beau at open-source-staffing.com
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Beau J. Gould
>>
>> Open Source Staffing
>> www.open-source-staffing.com
>> beau at open-source-staffing.com
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>> List Guidelines ............ http://beta.ixda.org/guidelines
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2 Aug 2007 - 11:33am
skyburn
2005

I personally would not staff or have a position that is responsible
for all that. It is good to have folks with knowledgeable backgrounds
in all that, but unless you have just a lot of time, this person just
will not have the ability to focus and produce quality work.

Think about it, if you had a deadline of both defining a usability
test script, a sql schema, and say wire frames, in a given week (aside
from getting burnt out) how many corners are going to have to be cut?

-Joe

On 8/2/07, Tubman, Wahne <wahne.tubman at gs.com> wrote:
> Curious to know how many people on this list are extremely proficient in
> all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer, Usability Engineer)
> highlighted in this post?
>
> Typically in my experience I find that it is rare to find these 3
> different skill sets wrapped into just one person with equal degree of
> proficiency.
>
>
> Is this a realistic request - And individual who is highly proficient in
> C++ and Java and Color theory and Design principles - ?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
> Beau Gould
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
> To: IA
> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface Developer -
> Telecommute[RECRUITER]
>
> [JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute [RECRUITER]
>
> Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA
>
> Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash compensation, with the
> opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and equity compensation.
>
> My client is an early-stage startup founded by entrepreneurs and senior
> executives from the financial services and e-commerce industries. Their
> vision is to become a leading technology platform company with an
> initial
> focus on electronically traded markets.
>
> They are seeking an ambitious User Interface Developer with 3-5 years
> programming experience - and an intuitive sense of beauty -- to build a
> real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.
>
> Required Skills:
>
> * Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of design principles,
> composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
> * Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames skills and a strong
> interest in
> user interface design.
> * Data driven UI experience (using XML, web services, databases). MySQL
> experience a plus.
> * Experience designing modular, object-oriented JavaScript and
> ActionScript.
>
> * Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
> * Experience with Linux and Windows.
> * Familiarity with high-performance trading applications.
> * Strong interest in prototyping applications, creative concepts and
> online
> mock ups using rapid iteration.
> * Knowledge of full life-cycle development (analysis, design,
> construction,
> implementation).
> * Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
> * Data driven UI experience using XML, web services, databases.
> * Good written and verbal communication skills. Strong work ethic.
> * Online portfolio of work required.
>
> If you are interested in this position, please submit your resume or
> portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your skills/experience
> as it
> pertains to this job to beau at open-source-staffing.com
>
> Thank you,
> Beau J. Gould
>
> Open Source Staffing
> www.open-source-staffing.com
> beau at open-source-staffing.com
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
> List Guidelines ............ http://beta.ixda.org/guidelines
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--
Joe

2 Aug 2007 - 11:44am
mtumi
2004

Plus there's a reason for these responsibilities to be handled by
different people. Having them all in one office... well to risk
political flaming, that's the bush administration's idea of checks
and balances...

MT

On Aug 2, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Joe Davidchik wrote:

> I personally would not staff or have a position that is responsible
> for all that. It is good to have folks with knowledgeable backgrounds
> in all that, but unless you have just a lot of time, this person just
> will not have the ability to focus and produce quality work.
>
> Think about it, if you had a deadline of both defining a usability
> test script, a sql schema, and say wire frames, in a given week (aside
> from getting burnt out) how many corners are going to have to be cut?
>
> -Joe
>
> On 8/2/07, Tubman, Wahne <wahne.tubman at gs.com> wrote:
>> Curious to know how many people on this list are extremely
>> proficient in
>> all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer, Usability Engineer)
>> highlighted in this post?
>>
>> Typically in my experience I find that it is rare to find these 3
>> different skill sets wrapped into just one person with equal
>> degree of
>> proficiency.
>>
>>
>> Is this a realistic request - And individual who is highly
>> proficient in
>> C++ and Java and Color theory and Design principles - ?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
>> Beau Gould
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
>> To: IA
>> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface Developer -
>> Telecommute[RECRUITER]
>>
>> [JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute [RECRUITER]
>>
>> Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA
>>
>> Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash compensation, with the
>> opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and equity compensation.
>>
>> My client is an early-stage startup founded by entrepreneurs and
>> senior
>> executives from the financial services and e-commerce industries.
>> Their
>> vision is to become a leading technology platform company with an
>> initial
>> focus on electronically traded markets.
>>
>> They are seeking an ambitious User Interface Developer with 3-5 years
>> programming experience - and an intuitive sense of beauty -- to
>> build a
>> real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.
>>
>> Required Skills:
>>
>> * Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of design principles,
>> composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
>> * Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames skills and a strong
>> interest in
>> user interface design.
>> * Data driven UI experience (using XML, web services, databases).
>> MySQL
>> experience a plus.
>> * Experience designing modular, object-oriented JavaScript and
>> ActionScript.
>>
>> * Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
>> * Experience with Linux and Windows.
>> * Familiarity with high-performance trading applications.
>> * Strong interest in prototyping applications, creative concepts and
>> online
>> mock ups using rapid iteration.
>> * Knowledge of full life-cycle development (analysis, design,
>> construction,
>> implementation).
>> * Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
>> * Data driven UI experience using XML, web services, databases.
>> * Good written and verbal communication skills. Strong work ethic.
>> * Online portfolio of work required.
>>
>> If you are interested in this position, please submit your resume or
>> portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your skills/
>> experience
>> as it
>> pertains to this job to beau at open-source-staffing.com
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Beau J. Gould
>>
>> Open Source Staffing
>> www.open-source-staffing.com
>> beau at open-source-staffing.com
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>> List Guidelines ............ http://beta.ixda.org/guidelines
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>>
>
>
> --
> Joe
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2 Aug 2007 - 11:57am
Katie Albers
2005

The main problem for me -- as an employee -- is that I
wouldn't want to work for a company that thought
things through so poorly that they couldn't tease out
the bits of what they really need, what really needs
to go together, and how to define and group their
actual needs into a job description that isn't
laughable.

kt

--- Joe Davidchik <skyburn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I personally would not staff or have a position that
> is responsible
> for all that. It is good to have folks with
> knowledgeable backgrounds
> in all that, but unless you have just a lot of time,
> this person just
> will not have the ability to focus and produce
> quality work.
>
> Think about it, if you had a deadline of both
> defining a usability
> test script, a sql schema, and say wire frames, in a
> given week (aside
> from getting burnt out) how many corners are going
> to have to be cut?
>
> -Joe
>
> On 8/2/07, Tubman, Wahne <wahne.tubman at gs.com>
> wrote:
> > Curious to know how many people on this list are
> extremely proficient in
> > all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer,
> Usability Engineer)
> > highlighted in this post?
> >
> > Typically in my experience I find that it is rare
> to find these 3
> > different skill sets wrapped into just one person
> with equal degree of
> > proficiency.
> >
> >
> > Is this a realistic request - And individual who
> is highly proficient in
> > C++ and Java and Color theory and Design
> principles - ?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
> >
>
[mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com]
> On Behalf Of
> > Beau Gould
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
> > To: IA
> > Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface
> Developer -
> > Telecommute[RECRUITER]
> >
> > [JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute
> [RECRUITER]
> >
> > Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA
> >
> > Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash
> compensation, with the
> > opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and
> equity compensation.
> >
> > My client is an early-stage startup founded by
> entrepreneurs and senior
> > executives from the financial services and
> e-commerce industries. Their
> > vision is to become a leading technology platform
> company with an
> > initial
> > focus on electronically traded markets.
> >
> > They are seeking an ambitious User Interface
> Developer with 3-5 years
> > programming experience - and an intuitive sense of
> beauty -- to build a
> > real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.
> >
> > Required Skills:
> >
> > * Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of
> design principles,
> > composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
> > * Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames
> skills and a strong
> > interest in
> > user interface design.
> > * Data driven UI experience (using XML, web
> services, databases). MySQL
> > experience a plus.
> > * Experience designing modular, object-oriented
> JavaScript and
> > ActionScript.
> >
> > * Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
> > * Experience with Linux and Windows.
> > * Familiarity with high-performance trading
> applications.
> > * Strong interest in prototyping applications,
> creative concepts and
> > online
> > mock ups using rapid iteration.
> > * Knowledge of full life-cycle development
> (analysis, design,
> > construction,
> > implementation).
> > * Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
> > * Data driven UI experience using XML, web
> services, databases.
> > * Good written and verbal communication skills.
> Strong work ethic.
> > * Online portfolio of work required.
> >
> > If you are interested in this position, please
> submit your resume or
> > portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting
> your skills/experience
> > as it
> > pertains to this job to
> beau at open-source-staffing.com
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Beau J. Gould
> >
> > Open Source Staffing
> > www.open-source-staffing.com
> > beau at open-source-staffing.com
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________
> > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association
> (IxDA)!
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>
>
> --
> Joe
>
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>

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http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow

2 Aug 2007 - 12:12pm
Jason Kirst
2007

Although I wouldn't suggest that this is an example of a "fake" job
ad - I personally know a couple of people who might fit these
requirement - this also brings up the interesting subject of
companies that place job ads that overshoot/overrestirict
prerequisites as a method of securing H-1b visas.

This video http://www.youtube.com/programmersguild provided by the
programmers guild shows one consultant's methods.

"Our goal is clearly NOT to find a qualified U.S. worker ... our
objective is to get this person a green card"
- Lawrence M. Lebowitz - Vice President of Marketing - Cohen &
Grigsby

- Jason

> The main problem for me -- as an employee -- is that I
> wouldn't want to work for a company that thought
> things through so poorly that they couldn't tease out
> the bits of what they really need, what really needs
> to go together, and how to define and group their
> actual needs into a job description that isn't
> laughable.
>
> kt
>
> --- Joe Davidchik <skyburn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I personally would not staff or have a position that
>> is responsible
>> for all that. It is good to have folks with
>> knowledgeable backgrounds
>> in all that, but unless you have just a lot of time,
>> this person just
>> will not have the ability to focus and produce
>> quality work.
>>
>> Think about it, if you had a deadline of both
>> defining a usability
>> test script, a sql schema, and say wire frames, in a
>> given week (aside
>> from getting burnt out) how many corners are going
>> to have to be cut?
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> On 8/2/07, Tubman, Wahne <wahne.tubman at gs.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Curious to know how many people on this list are
>> extremely proficient in
>>> all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer,
>> Usability Engineer)
>>> highlighted in this post?
>>>
>>> Typically in my experience I find that it is rare
>> to find these 3
>>> different skill sets wrapped into just one person
>> with equal degree of
>>> proficiency.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this a realistic request - And individual who
>> is highly proficient in
>>> C++ and Java and Color theory and Design
>> principles - ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>> discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
>>>
>>
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com]
>> On Behalf Of
>>> Beau Gould
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
>>> To: IA
>>> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface
>> Developer -
>>> Telecommute[RECRUITER]
>>>
>>> [JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute
>> [RECRUITER]
>>>
>>> Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA
>>>
>>> Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash
>> compensation, with the
>>> opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and
>> equity compensation.
>>>
>>> My client is an early-stage startup founded by
>> entrepreneurs and senior
>>> executives from the financial services and
>> e-commerce industries. Their
>>> vision is to become a leading technology platform
>> company with an
>>> initial
>>> focus on electronically traded markets.
>>>
>>> They are seeking an ambitious User Interface
>> Developer with 3-5 years
>>> programming experience - and an intuitive sense of
>> beauty -- to build a
>>> real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.
>>>
>>> Required Skills:
>>>
>>> * Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of
>> design principles,
>>> composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
>>> * Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames
>> skills and a strong
>>> interest in
>>> user interface design.
>>> * Data driven UI experience (using XML, web
>> services, databases). MySQL
>>> experience a plus.
>>> * Experience designing modular, object-oriented
>> JavaScript and
>>> ActionScript.
>>>
>>> * Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
>>> * Experience with Linux and Windows.
>>> * Familiarity with high-performance trading
>> applications.
>>> * Strong interest in prototyping applications,
>> creative concepts and
>>> online
>>> mock ups using rapid iteration.
>>> * Knowledge of full life-cycle development
>> (analysis, design,
>>> construction,
>>> implementation).
>>> * Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
>>> * Data driven UI experience using XML, web
>> services, databases.
>>> * Good written and verbal communication skills.
>> Strong work ethic.
>>> * Online portfolio of work required.
>>>
>>> If you are interested in this position, please
>> submit your resume or
>>> portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting
>> your skills/experience
>>> as it
>>> pertains to this job to
>> beau at open-source-staffing.com
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Beau J. Gould
>>>
>>> Open Source Staffing
>>> www.open-source-staffing.com
>>> beau at open-source-staffing.com
>>>
>>>
>>
> ________________________________________________________________
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>> Joe
>>
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2 Aug 2007 - 12:19pm
Michael Micheletti
2006

My perspective is that, if I look back over the last 15 years or so, I come
pretty close to meeting those requirements.

But there's a real problem of focus that's missing from a soup-to-nuts job
description like this one. What I've noticed is that, as I've grown as a
designer (especially in visual design work), my development skills cool
down. If I wanted to get hot again as a web or Java dev, I'd need to devote
serious time to it and leave Photoshop on the shelf. Domain skills the same
way - I'm up on group communications now, but much of the CRM, logistics,
and telephony stuff I used to do is buried in the gray matter somewhere.

I'm a real believer in the "big tent" idea of design, and enjoy being able
to exercise craftsmanship in designing and building interfaces, but there's
a real practical limit in how good a single person can get in so many
different areas. There's also a difference between "programmer mind" and
"designer mind" that is all too easy to miss when you're acting as both.
When the designer has their "programmer mind" engaged, you may not get such
great design results.

Michael Micheletti

On 8/2/07, Katie Albers <katie_albers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The main problem for me -- as an employee -- is that I
> wouldn't want to work for a company that thought
> things through so poorly that they couldn't tease out
> the bits of what they really need, what really needs
> to go together, and how to define and group their
> actual needs into a job description that isn't
> laughable.
>

2 Aug 2007 - 12:29pm
aschechterman
2004

All, Some thoughts a while back, from Alan Cooper and Kim Goodwin,
perhaps related to this thread . . .
http://webword.com/interviews/cooper.html and
http://www.cooper.com/insights/journal_of_design/articles/can_programmers_do_interaction_1.html
- AS

=====

Andrew Schechterman
www.linkedin.com/in/andrewschechterman
aschechterman at gmail.com

=====

On 8/2/07, Michael Micheletti <michael.micheletti at gmail.com> wrote:
> My perspective is that, if I look back over the last 15 years or so, I come
> pretty close to meeting those requirements.
>
> But there's a real problem of focus that's missing from a soup-to-nuts job
> description like this one. What I've noticed is that, as I've grown as a
> designer (especially in visual design work), my development skills cool
> down. If I wanted to get hot again as a web or Java dev, I'd need to devote
> serious time to it and leave Photoshop on the shelf. Domain skills the same
> way - I'm up on group communications now, but much of the CRM, logistics,
> and telephony stuff I used to do is buried in the gray matter somewhere.
>
> I'm a real believer in the "big tent" idea of design, and enjoy being able
> to exercise craftsmanship in designing and building interfaces, but there's
> a real practical limit in how good a single person can get in so many
> different areas. There's also a difference between "programmer mind" and
> "designer mind" that is all too easy to miss when you're acting as both.
> When the designer has their "programmer mind" engaged, you may not get such
> great design results.
>
> Michael Micheletti
>
> On 8/2/07, Katie Albers <katie_albers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > The main problem for me -- as an employee -- is that I
> > wouldn't want to work for a company that thought
> > things through so poorly that they couldn't tease out
> > the bits of what they really need, what really needs
> > to go together, and how to define and group their
> > actual needs into a job description that isn't
> > laughable.
> >
> ________________________________________________________________
> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
> List Guidelines ............ http://beta.ixda.org/guidelines
> List Help .................. http://beta.ixda.org/help
> Unsubscribe ................ http://beta.ixda.org/unsubscribe
> Questions .................. list at ixda.org
> Home ....................... http://beta.ixda.org
>

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"Form follows life."

2 Aug 2007 - 12:50pm
Will Parker
2007

Here we are, a group of people not unfamiliar with usability issues,
who seem to agree that the original job posting (presumably provided
by the employer) would require a second Da Vinci. We've had a number
of discussions about this kind of job description before.

Perhaps we should ask Beau, the recruiter who originally posted the
job offer, if there's any way to _reliably_ enlighten employers about
the Spray-on Usability problem.

Beau - I don't want to put you on the spot, because you're _far_ from
the first recruiter to post job listings like this one, and we all
know it's the hiring managers who are fault.

However, as a recruiter, you probably get a better idea of what's
driving this behavior. Do you have any idea why employers so often
mash up developer and usability roles in one job position?

- Will

Will Parker
wparker at ChannelingDesign.com

“I wish developing great products was as easy as writing a check. If
that were the case, then Microsoft would have great products.” -
Steve Jobs

On Aug 2, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Katie Albers wrote:

> The main problem for me -- as an employee -- is that I
> wouldn't want to work for a company that thought
> things through so poorly that they couldn't tease out
> the bits of what they really need, what really needs
> to go together, and how to define and group their
> actual needs into a job description that isn't
> laughable.
>
> kt
>
> --- Joe Davidchik <skyburn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I personally would not staff or have a position that
>> is responsible
>> for all that. It is good to have folks with
>> knowledgeable backgrounds
>> in all that, but unless you have just a lot of time,
>> this person just
>> will not have the ability to focus and produce
>> quality work.
>>
>> Think about it, if you had a deadline of both
>> defining a usability
>> test script, a sql schema, and say wire frames, in a
>> given week (aside
>> from getting burnt out) how many corners are going
>> to have to be cut?
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> On 8/2/07, Tubman, Wahne <wahne.tubman at gs.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Curious to know how many people on this list are
>> extremely proficient in
>>> all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer,
>> Usability Engineer)
>>> highlighted in this post?
>>>
>>> Typically in my experience I find that it is rare
>> to find these 3
>>> different skill sets wrapped into just one person
>> with equal degree of
>>> proficiency.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this a realistic request - And individual who
>> is highly proficient in
>>> C++ and Java and Color theory and Design
>> principles - ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>> discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
>>>
>>
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com]
>> On Behalf Of
>>> Beau Gould
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
>>> To: IA
>>> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface
>> Developer -
>>> Telecommute[RECRUITER]
>>>
>>> [JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute
>> [RECRUITER]
>>>
>>> Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA
>>>
>>> Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash
>> compensation, with the
>>> opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and
>> equity compensation.
>>>
>>> My client is an early-stage startup founded by
>> entrepreneurs and senior
>>> executives from the financial services and
>> e-commerce industries. Their
>>> vision is to become a leading technology platform
>> company with an
>>> initial
>>> focus on electronically traded markets.
>>>
>>> They are seeking an ambitious User Interface
>> Developer with 3-5 years
>>> programming experience - and an intuitive sense of
>> beauty -- to build a
>>> real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.
>>>
>>> Required Skills:
>>>
>>> * Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of
>> design principles,
>>> composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
>>> * Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames
>> skills and a strong
>>> interest in
>>> user interface design.
>>> * Data driven UI experience (using XML, web
>> services, databases). MySQL
>>> experience a plus.
>>> * Experience designing modular, object-oriented
>> JavaScript and
>>> ActionScript.
>>>
>>> * Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
>>> * Experience with Linux and Windows.
>>> * Familiarity with high-performance trading
>> applications.
>>> * Strong interest in prototyping applications,
>> creative concepts and
>>> online
>>> mock ups using rapid iteration.
>>> * Knowledge of full life-cycle development
>> (analysis, design,
>>> construction,
>>> implementation).
>>> * Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
>>> * Data driven UI experience using XML, web
>> services, databases.
>>> * Good written and verbal communication skills.
>> Strong work ethic.
>>> * Online portfolio of work required.
>>>
>>> If you are interested in this position, please
>> submit your resume or
>>> portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting
>> your skills/experience
>>> as it
>>> pertains to this job to
>> beau at open-source-staffing.com
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Beau J. Gould
>>>
>>> Open Source Staffing
>>> www.open-source-staffing.com
>>> beau at open-source-staffing.com

2 Aug 2007 - 12:58pm
SemanticWill
2007

And to amplify Will's query - mash up Interface designers with interface
engineers.

Based on our previous conversations, it is understandable for employers to
want interface and interaction design out of 1 person, since many times they
are complimentary skills. I know many IAs (like me) that came out of
interface design or development backgrounds and so have some modicum of
skill. But the best of all scenarios as an ia is working with fantastic
interaction designers, visual designers, usability (hfe) people and
interface engineers all on one team - there may be a lot of overlap - but it
gives people to really become experts while not losing out on other avenues
of intellectual research -- although not a visual designer - I love reading
about color theory - and really appreciated the work Chris Fahey did in his
presentation on design and style.
But the conflation of interface/front-end engineering, with some
IA/interaction design, visual design and usability to boot is insane.
Usability is a discipline that requires, when at all possible, a devoted,
and devout, person to really do it right.

On 8/2/07, Will Parker <wparker at channelingdesign.com> wrote:
>
> Here we are, a group of people not unfamiliar with usability issues,
> who seem to agree that the original job posting (presumably provided
> by the employer) would require a second Da Vinci. We've had a number
> of discussions about this kind of job description before.
>
> Perhaps we should ask Beau, the recruiter who originally posted the
> job offer, if there's any way to _reliably_ enlighten employers about
> the Spray-on Usability problem.
>
> Beau - I don't want to put you on the spot, because you're _far_ from
> the first recruiter to post job listings like this one, and we all
> know it's the hiring managers who are fault.
>
> However, as a recruiter, you probably get a better idea of what's
> driving this behavior. Do you have any idea why employers so often
> mash up developer and usability roles in one job position?
>
> - Will
>
> Will Parker
> wparker at ChannelingDesign.com
>
>
> "I wish developing great products was as easy as writing a check. If
> that were the case, then Microsoft would have great products." -
> Steve Jobs
>
> On Aug 2, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Katie Albers wrote:
>
> > The main problem for me -- as an employee -- is that I
> > wouldn't want to work for a company that thought
> > things through so poorly that they couldn't tease out
> > the bits of what they really need, what really needs
> > to go together, and how to define and group their
> > actual needs into a job description that isn't
> > laughable.
> >
> > kt
> >
> > --- Joe Davidchik <skyburn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I personally would not staff or have a position that
> >> is responsible
> >> for all that. It is good to have folks with
> >> knowledgeable backgrounds
> >> in all that, but unless you have just a lot of time,
> >> this person just
> >> will not have the ability to focus and produce
> >> quality work.
> >>
> >> Think about it, if you had a deadline of both
> >> defining a usability
> >> test script, a sql schema, and say wire frames, in a
> >> given week (aside
> >> from getting burnt out) how many corners are going
> >> to have to be cut?
> >>
> >> -Joe
> >>
> >> On 8/2/07, Tubman, Wahne <wahne.tubman at gs.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Curious to know how many people on this list are
> >> extremely proficient in
> >>> all 3 skill sets(Programmer, Graphic designer,
> >> Usability Engineer)
> >>> highlighted in this post?
> >>>
> >>> Typically in my experience I find that it is rare
> >> to find these 3
> >>> different skill sets wrapped into just one person
> >> with equal degree of
> >>> proficiency.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Is this a realistic request - And individual who
> >> is highly proficient in
> >>> C++ and Java and Color theory and Design
> >> principles - ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:
> >> discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
> >>>
> >>
> > [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >>> Beau Gould
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:42 PM
> >>> To: IA
> >>> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] User Interface
> >> Developer -
> >>> Telecommute[RECRUITER]
> >>>
> >>> [JOB] User Interface Developer - Telecommute
> >> [RECRUITER]
> >>>
> >>> Location: Your home/office - Telecommute - USA
> >>>
> >>> Compensation: Competitive contract-based cash
> >> compensation, with the
> >>> opportunity for full-time employment, bonus and
> >> equity compensation.
> >>>
> >>> My client is an early-stage startup founded by
> >> entrepreneurs and senior
> >>> executives from the financial services and
> >> e-commerce industries. Their
> >>> vision is to become a leading technology platform
> >> company with an
> >>> initial
> >>> focus on electronically traded markets.
> >>>
> >>> They are seeking an ambitious User Interface
> >> Developer with 3-5 years
> >>> programming experience - and an intuitive sense of
> >> beauty -- to build a
> >>> real-time, cross-asset alternative trading system.
> >>>
> >>> Required Skills:
> >>>
> >>> * Proven web site design experience. Knowledge of
> >> design principles,
> >>> composition, color theory, and brand adherence.
> >>> * Flash / JavaScript / DHTML / JSP / iFrames
> >> skills and a strong
> >>> interest in
> >>> user interface design.
> >>> * Data driven UI experience (using XML, web
> >> services, databases). MySQL
> >>> experience a plus.
> >>> * Experience designing modular, object-oriented
> >> JavaScript and
> >>> ActionScript.
> >>>
> >>> * Proficiency in C/C++ and Java.
> >>> * Experience with Linux and Windows.
> >>> * Familiarity with high-performance trading
> >> applications.
> >>> * Strong interest in prototyping applications,
> >> creative concepts and
> >>> online
> >>> mock ups using rapid iteration.
> >>> * Knowledge of full life-cycle development
> >> (analysis, design,
> >>> construction,
> >>> implementation).
> >>> * Knowledge of rapid development methodologies.
> >>> * Data driven UI experience using XML, web
> >> services, databases.
> >>> * Good written and verbal communication skills.
> >> Strong work ethic.
> >>> * Online portfolio of work required.
> >>>
> >>> If you are interested in this position, please
> >> submit your resume or
> >>> portfolio and a paragraph (or two) highlighting
> >> your skills/experience
> >>> as it
> >>> pertains to this job to
> >> beau at open-source-staffing.com
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Beau J. Gould
> >>>
> >>> Open Source Staffing
> >>> www.open-source-staffing.com
> >>> beau at open-source-staffing.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
> List Guidelines ............ http://beta.ixda.org/guidelines
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