Microsoft's Ribbon?

17 Sep 2007 - 12:16pm
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ldebett
2004

A while back, there was a lot of chatter about the MS Ribbon... but around
patenting issues. Since Office 2007 has been out for some time now, I'm
surprised that I haven't seen a whole lot of mention (or complaining!) about
this new paradigm here, considering MS has basically attempted to redefine
the desktop UI from the weathered (and tired?) pull-down menu method to a
whole new task-based "right tools at the right time" approach.

So...

I'd love to hear people's thoughts on their use of the Ribbon in various
Office products.

Granted, it's a shift, and that requires learning. And learning is painful.
I'd like to hear about your usability concerns and examples from a
practitioner's perspective. (I'm less interested in hearing about how things
have been moved and you can't find things anymore because you're preaching
to the choir, sister, and it's inevitable with a new thing like this).

Personally, I'm struggling with the redundancy of panels from one tab to
another, but their inconsistency in location in each. My eye goes to the
spot I expect to see a tool (because that's where it lives in the Standard
Tab and I've come to expect it there), but it is instead somewhere else on
that panel. I'd almost prefer that tool to not be there at all to force me
to go back to Standard. I'm also concerned about the vertical space the
Ribbon takes up. Lots of valuable real estate. Word is the worst because I
need that space to write/read my doc. And hiding the tools is not the
answer.

Also, how do you think the rest of the software design/development world
will respond? Do you think other companies will adopt this (back to the
licensing/patenting thing)? Is it the "next big thing"? Do you think this
design could be successfully applied to other, more complicated, products?

~Lisa

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28 Sep 2007 - 1:54pm
SemanticWill
2007

Adobe.
Nothing in the marketplace has the market share near Illustrator for vector
image creation. Among professional graphic designers, IxDers/Digital Artists
- nothing compares to the Adobe Creative Suite. I love Adobe. LOVE them. :-)

On 9/28/07, Mark Schraad <mschraad at mac.com> wrote:
>
> I can not think of a single company that has grown to profitably dominate
> its market, and still maintained a very high level of customer satisfaction
> and brand loyalty. At least not in the united states. It would be a great
> list to look at though.
>
> I would hate to think that arrogance and complacency are always the result
> of great success.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 28, 2007, at 02:36PM, "Joseph Selbie" <
> jselbie at tristream.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Apple (just like BMW, Porsche) tends to try to do the consumer right,
> >and somehow gets it "just right". No more, no less. For the majority,
> >they love Apple for this. For the minority, they use a Linux distro =)."
> >
> >This begs a question for me. Can any product that has 90% of the market
> ever
> >be "just right"? Does creating a product that its users will love require
> >concentrating on a small percentage of the market and charging a premium?
> >
> >Joseph Selbie
> >Founder, CEO Tristream
> >http://www.tristream.com
>
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28 Sep 2007 - 1:51pm
SemanticWill
2007

>I can not think of a single company that has grown to profitably dominate
its market, and still maintained a very high level of customer satisfaction
and brand loyalty.<

I can think of 2:
TiVo.
RIM - Blackberry

On 9/28/07, Mark Schraad <mschraad at mac.com> wrote:
>
> I can not think of a single company that has grown to profitably dominate
> its market, and still maintained a very high level of customer satisfaction
> and brand loyalty. At least not in the united states. It would be a great
> list to look at though.
>
> I would hate to think that arrogance and complacency are always the result
> of great success.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 28, 2007, at 02:36PM, "Joseph Selbie" <
> jselbie at tristream.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Apple (just like BMW, Porsche) tends to try to do the consumer right,
> >and somehow gets it "just right". No more, no less. For the majority,
> >they love Apple for this. For the minority, they use a Linux distro =)."
> >
> >This begs a question for me. Can any product that has 90% of the market
> ever
> >be "just right"? Does creating a product that its users will love require
> >concentrating on a small percentage of the market and charging a premium?
> >
> >Joseph Selbie
> >Founder, CEO Tristream
> >http://www.tristream.com
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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IxDA Interaction 08 | Savannah
http://interaction08.ixda.org/
-------------------------------------------------------
will evans
user experience architect
wkevans4 at gmail.com
-------------------------------------------------------

28 Sep 2007 - 2:25pm
David Walker
2007

Is anybody else out here having trouble with CS3 on Vista 64bit? Illustrator runs okay (that's what I use most of the time), but Photoshop won't open unless I run it as admin and even then it shuts down all the time. After Effects exhibits similar behaviour.
Dave W

>-----Original Message-----
>From: W Evans [mailto:wkevans4 at gmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 02:54 PM
>To: 'Mark Schraad'
>Cc: 'IxDA Discuss'
>Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Microsoft's Ribbon?
>
>Adobe.
>Nothing in the marketplace has the market share near Illustrator for vector
>image creation. Among professional graphic designers, IxDers/Digital Artists
>- nothing compares to the Adobe Creative Suite. I love Adobe. LOVE them. :-)
>
>On 9/28/07, Mark Schraad <mschraad at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can not think of a single company that has grown to profitably dominate
>> its market, and still maintained a very high level of customer satisfaction
>> and brand loyalty. At least not in the united states. It would be a great
>> list to look at though.
>>
>> I would hate to think that arrogance and complacency are always the result
>> of great success.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 28, 2007, at 02:36PM, "Joseph Selbie" <
>> jselbie at tristream.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Apple (just like BMW, Porsche) tends to try to do the consumer right,
>> >and somehow gets it "just right". No more, no less. For the majority,
>> >they love Apple for this. For the minority, they use a Linux distro =)."
>> >
>> >This begs a question for me. Can any product that has 90% of the market
>> ever
>> >be "just right"? Does creating a product that its users will love require
>> >concentrating on a small percentage of the market and charging a premium?
>> >
>> >Joseph Selbie
>> >Founder, CEO Tristream
>> >http://www.tristream.com
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>> List Guidelines ............ http://beta.ixda.org/guidelines
>> List Help .................. http://beta.ixda.org/help
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>> Questions .................. list at ixda.org
>> Home ....................... http://beta.ixda.org
>>
>
>
>
>--
>~ will
>
>IxDA Interaction 08 | Savannah
>http://interaction08.ixda.org/
>-------------------------------------------------------
>will evans
>user experience architect
>wkevans4 at gmail.com
>-------------------------------------------------------
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