Style guides

4 Jan 2008 - 3:41am
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Darek Paciorek
2007

Hi,

Maybe someone know where I can find style guides for windows?

Thanks a lot.

Regards

Darek Paciorek

PS. Sorry if my english is bad.

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4 Jan 2008 - 9:19am
Janne Lammi
2008

Have a look at Windows Vista User Experience Guidelines:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511258.aspx

-Janne

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5 Jan 2008 - 11:54am
Darek Paciorek
2007

> Have a look at Windows Vista User Experience Guidelines:
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511258.aspx

Thanks :)

6 Jan 2008 - 9:00am
Marco
2008

Thanks! This comes at exactly the right time.
The company I work for is beginning to appreciate usability and user
experience. I think that a step in the right direction would be to create
short styleguides for each project that is currently under development.
Then, the developers would have a consistent guideline for placing and
naming of buttons, the grouping of elements and such. I've seen that this is
a problem. I also hope that the styleguides creates support under the
developers for further user interaction efforts.
Can someone offer advice for creating such a styleguide (even if it is:
don't do it :-) )?

Kind regards,
Marco Plaisier

2008/1/5, Darek Paciorek <darekpaciorek at gmail.com>:
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> > Have a look at Windows Vista User Experience Guidelines:
> > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511258.aspx
>
>
> Thanks :)
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7 Jan 2008 - 6:50am
Janne Lammi
2008

Marco: In general, style guides encourage consistency in user
interfaces and in that way can make UIs easier to use. However, a
style guide can%u2019t guarantee usability of the _overall interface_
because it usually concentrates too much only on low-level design
issues. If your developers are not also the guys who design the UI, I
mean if they just implement the software based on UI spec/storyboards
etc, they might benefit from using a style guide because they still
need to do some low-level design decisions. But, if this is not the
case (well, also if it is ;)), I%u2019d suggest you to create a UI
design pattern resource instead, which is useful both in the UI
design and development phases.

Unlike style guides and guidelines, patterns explicitly focus on
context of use and tell the designer when, how and why the solution
can be applied. Patterns capture a common structure, usually a very
familiar one that is easy to recognize, without being too concrete on
the details, giving the flexibility to be creative, unlike style
guides.

Here are some links that helps you to create a UI design pattern
library:

Implementing a Pattern Library in the Real World: A Yahoo! Case Study
by Erin Malone and Matt Leacock and Chanel Wheeler (2005)
http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the_real_world_a_yahoo_case_study

An inside look at the Pattern Library (see the video)
http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/12/07/pattern-library-brown-bag/

My master%u2019s thesis: Developing a UI design pattern Library - A
Case Study
http://users.tkk.fi/~i80706/dippa/Thesis_janne_lammi.pdf

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7 Jan 2008 - 12:44pm
Pawson, Mark
2007

Hi Marco,

Also see this earlier thread on style guides and standards.
http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=16552

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7 Jan 2008 - 1:35pm
Christian Crumlish
2006

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 03:50:50, Janne Lammi <janne.lammi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the_real_world_a_yahoo_case_study
> http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/12/07/pattern-library-brown-bag/
> http://users.tkk.fi/~i80706/dippa/Thesis_janne_lammi.pdf

For those thinking of attending the IA Summit in Miami in April, I'll
be presenting with Austin Govella on the subject of using pattern
libraries in the real world (and to support agile development), and
Erin Malone, Lucas Pettinati and myself are running a pre-conference
workshop on patterns, from interaction to design to build.

I'm also attending Interaction08 and would be interested in holding an
informal design patterns BoF there, perhaps at lunch one day, if
there's sufficient interest.

-xian

--
Christian Crumlish
Yahoo! Pattern Detective
http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns

7 Jan 2008 - 1:01pm
Gloria Petron
2007

When I read Janne's reply, I had to slap my forehead like Gene Wilder in *Young
Frankenstein*: "Why yes...yes, that's* it!*"

This is the direction towards which I think all big ol' clunky online style
guides should evolve. It's like the separation between church & state. Why
should a new hire from Marketing tasked with posting a story on the company
website about the latest charity event have to slog through pages of grid
layouts? For her, a concise online style guide would explain why it's not
good to post a mile-high block of text. And why should a developer who wants
to know if the page height for *Transactions* should be based upon the
number of records or a fixed pixel height have to wade through logo do's and
don't's? For him, a pattern library is the most practical resource.

I have to thank Janne for his gentle reminder that there are appropriate
places for certain things. It certainly explains why I've been moving away
from documenting technical minutiae on paper. Going forward, I'm going to
shoot for having a dramatically shorter style guide that covers editorial
and branding as it relates to the web, and a pattern library that defines
best practices for interfaces...instead of cramming everything together into
a single document, half of which needs constant updating.

Incidentally, my boss has been on me for months about updating our style
guide. I've been holding off because something told me there had to be a
better way. Thank you Marco, Janne, and this forum for helping me figure it
out.

7 Jan 2008 - 3:50pm
Marco
2008

Thanks for all the advice.
I'm not sure yet what the best approach for the company is. Design patterns
are definitely relevant for my work, but I think that they are less relevant
for the developers. But that might not be very different for the
styleguides. I think that, if I start small, I might be able to 'sell' it to
the developers and change a few minds.

Marco

2008/1/7, Christian Crumlish <xian at pobox.com>:
>
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 03:50:50, Janne Lammi <janne.lammi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the_real_world_a_yahoo_case_study
> > http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/12/07/pattern-library-brown-bag/
> > http://users.tkk.fi/~i80706/dippa/Thesis_janne_lammi.pdf
>
> For those thinking of attending the IA Summit in Miami in April, I'll
> be presenting with Austin Govella on the subject of using pattern
> libraries in the real world (and to support agile development), and
> Erin Malone, Lucas Pettinati and myself are running a pre-conference
> workshop on patterns, from interaction to design to build.
>
> I'm also attending Interaction08 and would be interested in holding an
> informal design patterns BoF there, perhaps at lunch one day, if
> there's sufficient interest.
>
> -xian
>
> --
> Christian Crumlish
> Yahoo! Pattern Detective
> http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns
> ________________________________________________________________
> *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah*
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