"Manifesto of the UI" - A UI Developer's POV

1 Feb 2008 - 7:57am
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Dave Malouf
2005

http://tinyurl.com/ysxtyg

Hi guys, the above link is to a blog post by a UI Developer blogger. Lots of
what he is talking about is the stuff that we talk about.
It just highlights to me this notion of people are doing interaction design
without knowing they are doing it.

Just great! And a much bigger community than we are.

Anyway, it is good to see how others view UI/IxD and how they talk about it
from their perspective.

I think some of his insights are pretty relevant.

-- dave

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David Malouf
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http://ixda.org/
http://motorola.com/

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1 Feb 2008 - 8:29am
SemanticWill
2007

"It just highlights to me this notion of people are doing interaction design
without knowing they are doing it."

Absolutely. When I just read that - I was reminded of something Dan S. wrote
in the first chapter of Designing for Interfaces that argued that exact same
point. People who don't even know what interaction design is - are thinking
about and doing interaction design - some very competently.

And from a previous conversation about IxD versus ID, I want to ecco Mark
Schraad's comment that a lot of that discussion/definitions is also handed
pretty eloquently by Mssr. Saffer. If any of you haven't read it - shame on
you! Seriously - it's worth the $$ to pick it up - because he delves into
all these things that we discuss everyday.

Designing for Interaction: Creating Smart Applications and Clever Devices,
Dan Saffer.<http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Interaction-Creating-Applications-Devices/dp/0321432061/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5955180-9985634?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187801868&sr=1-1>
*http://tinyurl.com/2mk3cg

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*On an unrelated note - I do like what he has to say about CSS/WPF*:

**"*I am confident that CSS is an excellent technology for typography,
however after using Flex and WPF I am not convinced that it will ever
translate into a full-on styling engine. Using real-time vectors, gradients,
and animations is something that a styling engine needs to support: and it's
something that CSS simply is not made to handle."

--
~ will

"Where you innovate, how you innovate,
and what you innovate are design problems"
-------------------------------------------------------
will evans
user experience architect
wkevans4 at gmail.com
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On Feb 1, 2008 8:57 AM, David Malouf <dave.ixd at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/ysxtyg
>
> Hi guys, the above link is to a blog post by a UI Developer blogger. Lots
> of
> what he is talking about is the stuff that we talk about.
> It just highlights to me this notion of people are doing interaction
> design
> without knowing they are doing it.
>
> Just great! And a much bigger community than we are.
>
> Anyway, it is good to see how others view UI/IxD and how they talk about
> it
> from their perspective.
>
> I think some of his insights are pretty relevant.
>
> -- dave
>
>
> --
> David Malouf
> http://synapticburn.com/
> http://ixda.org/
> http://motorola.com/

1 Feb 2008 - 8:33am
Dave Malouf
2005

On Feb 1, 2008 9:29 AM, W Evans <wkevans4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> And from a previous conversation about IxD versus ID, I want to ecco Mark
> Schraad's comment that a lot of that discussion/definitions is also handed
> pretty eloquently by Mssr. Saffer. If any of you haven't read it - shame on
> you! Seriously - it's worth the $$ to pick it up - because he delves into
> all these things that we discuss everyday.
>
> Designing for Interaction: Creating Smart Applications and Clever Devices,
> Dan Saffer.<http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Interaction-Creating-Applications-Devices/dp/0321432061/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5955180-9985634?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187801868&sr=1-1>
> *http://tinyurl.com/2mk3cg
> *

Maybe we can convince Mr. Saffer to sign a few copies at Interaction08 next
week.
That book and others by speakers, attendees and others will be available in
the conference exhibition area.

-- dave

--
David Malouf
http://synapticburn.com/
http://ixda.org/
http://motorola.com/

1 Feb 2008 - 8:56am
Adrian Howard
2005

On 1 Feb 2008, at 14:29, W Evans wrote:

> "It just highlights to me this notion of people are doing
> interaction design
> without knowing they are doing it."
>
> Absolutely. When I just read that - I was reminded of something Dan
> S. wrote
> in the first chapter of Designing for Interfaces that argued that
> exact same
> point. People who don't even know what interaction design is - are
> thinking
> about and doing interaction design - some very competently.
[snip]

Possibly they know what it is - but just don't call it Interaction
Design :-)

Adrian

1 Feb 2008 - 9:36am
Luis de la Orde...
2007

Possibly they know what it is - but just don't call it Interaction
Design :-)

Adrian
============

Since webstyleguide.com, useit.com, joelonsoftware.com and alistapart.com,
this kind of knowledge has been flowing in and out of the Web Interface
Development arena. I am not sure if my mental models (both as former
educator and former UI developer) are blocking me from seeing the novelty
but the information has been out there for some time.

Or is it just European pessimism from my part? :)

Cheers,

Luis

1 Feb 2008 - 10:18am
Dave Malouf
2005

Luis, I think Adrian was being flippant about the whole UI vs. IxD
thread. Maybe they just call it UI Design and they think of all the
aspects of IxD to be included there.

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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=25456

1 Feb 2008 - 9:08pm
Kontra
2007

> "...Using real-time vectors, gradients, and animations is something that a styling
> engine needs to support: and it's something that CSS simply is not made to
> handle."

That's an unfortunate statement massively ignorant of technical facts,
computer screen display basics and the current state of CSS. I touch
just the tip of it here:

Runtime wars (2): Apple's answer to Flash, Silverlight and JavaFX
http://counternotions.com/2007/11/15/apple-runtime-answer-2/

--
Kontra
http://counternotions.com

2 Feb 2008 - 2:55am
Adrian Howard
2005

On 1 Feb 2008, at 08:18, dave malouf wrote:

> Luis, I think Adrian was being flippant about the whole UI vs. IxD
> thread. Maybe they just call it UI Design and they think of all the
> aspects of IxD to be included there.
[snip]

Mildly flippant - yes :-)

Just because somebody doesn't label themselves as doing IxD doesn't
mean they're not doing all the things that folk on this list mean
when they say IxD, doing them consciously, and doing them well.

Adrian

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