Your chance to vote on the Microsoft icon copyright/style conform ance paradox

21 Sep 2004 - 9:10am
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carl myhill
2006

Apologies for cross posting...

The Microsoft feedback website mentions an issue which has frustrated me for
years. Microsoft dont share their icons, yet they tell us to be consistent
in following their platform standards. How do we do that without violating
copyright?

Problem nicely outlined on a microsoft suggestion site, with a voting
button!

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/viewFeedback.aspx?feedbackid=4
ceba825-a7d0-4ed2-9164-827dbc24deeb

Care to exercise your democratic right?

Carl

>From the website...

"According to
"http://www.microsoft.com/permission/copyrgt/cop-img.htm#Icons", Microsoft
does not allow the use of any of their icons except for the ones distrubuted
in their SDKs.

Visual Studio's set of icons have not been updated for years - most of them
are Windows 3.1 icons!

This puts ISVs such as myself in a *VERY* bad position. Our customers beg
and plead for "Microsoft-style" software that has the same look and feel as
Microsoft products. In fact, many of the RFPs and software purcahsers
specifically *REQUIRE* that our software looks and operates the same as
Microsoft Office! We are legally not permitted to use the toolbar icons in
Office (ie/ the save or print icons), and Microsoft does not license, sell,
or distribute them (or other icons) in any way.

Most software applications steal Microsoft's icons or develop their own with
a different look and feel - which confuses the end users.

We also cannot have our program have a Windows 3.1 look and feel by using
the icons distributed in Visual Studio.

Proposed Solution: Either:
* Provide a way to license Microsoft icons.
* Distribute updated, modern, 256+color icons with Visual Studio

Many, many products need the following icons:
* Save, Save All, Print, Print Preview, Cut, Copy, Paste, Help, Chart, Close
All Documents, Split, Tools, etc.

I realize this is a strange and almost off-topic suggestion, but it is
extremely important to almost all of your ISVs. We need a large library of
icons to make our software fit the Windows look and feel without looking
silly by developing our own, completely unrelated icons. (ie/ I've seen a
product with a save icon that had an "arrow into a cylinder"! Why? They
cannot legally have their icon as a disk, since Microsoft own's the
copyright to that! :( :( "

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21 Sep 2004 - 10:18am
Listera
2004

Myhill, Carl S (GE Energy):

> In fact, many of the RFPs and software purcahsers specifically *REQUIRE* that
> our software looks and operates the same as Microsoft Office!

Hmm.

Ziya
Nullius in Verba

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