Vista Fonts and OpenType

31 Mar 2008 - 3:01pm
6 years ago
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Andrei Herasimchuk
2004

Ok... I'm sending this to the mailing list because I know Chris and
some other Microsoft people are reading this...

Will Microsoft PLEASE... PLEASE for the LOVE OF GOD.... and yes... I
am SHOUTING....

Will you guys please please please release a legitimate OpenType set
of the Vista fonts, so those of us designers who choose to do our
work on a Macintosh can prototype and mockup our products for our
clients using these wonderful new fonts, all the while further
encouraging them or organizations to stop using Arial or Trebuchet?

--
Andrei Herasimchuk

Principal, Involution Studios
innovating the digital world

e. andrei at involutionstudios.com
c. +1 408 306 6422

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31 Mar 2008 - 4:00pm
Andrei Herasimchuk
2004

My apologies... I was probably a bit unclear. A few people sent me
links on where I could obtain these fonts by actually having to
purchase them. I already know about those avenues.

But I don't want to buy these fonts for every single machine in my
design studio, costing me upwards of $10,000 and more as I hire more
people. I want them released for free.

Why?

We don't use them because we necessarily like them. In fact, I think
2/3 of them a bit clunky and would never use them on 90% of my work.
We use them because Microsoft is basically asking us to in order to
design good looking products for Vista. Why on earth I should pay for
the privilege of making Microsoft look better by using the fonts that
they explicitly designed to make their OS look better in comparison
to Apple is utterly beyond me.

--
Andrei Herasimchuk

Principal, Involution Studios
innovating the digital world

e. andrei at involutionstudios.com
c. +1 408 306 6422

1 Apr 2008 - 4:42pm
Chris Bernard
2007

I'll share this request with the right folks.

Chris Bernard
Microsoft
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Ok... I'm sending this to the mailing list because I know Chris and
some other Microsoft people are reading this...

Will Microsoft PLEASE... PLEASE for the LOVE OF GOD.... and yes... I
am SHOUTING....

Will you guys please please please release a legitimate OpenType set
of the Vista fonts, so those of us designers who choose to do our
work on a Macintosh can prototype and mockup our products for our
clients using these wonderful new fonts, all the while further
encouraging them or organizations to stop using Arial or Trebuchet?

--
Andrei Herasimchuk

Principal, Involution Studios
innovating the digital world

e. andrei at involutionstudios.com
c. +1 408 306 6422

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1 Apr 2008 - 4:56pm
Jeffrey D. Gimzek
2007

i thought Arial and Trebuchet were the two best fonts in the world,
and that's why everyone (including me!) uses them ?

jd

On Apr 1, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Andrei wrote:

> Ok... I'm sending this to the mailing list because I know Chris and
> some other Microsoft people are reading this...
>
> Will Microsoft PLEASE... PLEASE for the LOVE OF GOD.... and yes... I
> am SHOUTING....
>
> Will you guys please please please release a legitimate OpenType set
> of the Vista fonts, so those of us designers who choose to do our
> work on a Macintosh can prototype and mockup our products for our
> clients using these wonderful new fonts, all the while further
> encouraging them or organizations to stop using Arial or Trebuchet?
>
> --
> Andrei

- -

Jeffrey D. Gimzek | Senior User Experience Designer

http://www.glassdoor.com

2 Apr 2008 - 12:17am
Dave Cortright
2005

Just baiting us, aren't you? Trebuchet is actually a beautiful font, IMHO,
tragically ruined by the lowercase g and the ampersand (&), both of which
are ugly, attention-grabbing glyphs. It's a deal-breaker for
me<http://www.kpao.org/2008/03/trebuchet-a-font-ruined-by-two.html>
.

And while the Microsoft C fonts are indeed nice, I highly doubt "the right
folks" will license them for free to the world. Times are quite different
than they were 13 years ago at the start of the "Internet Tidal
Wave<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet%20Tidal%20Wave%20memo>".
But what I don't understand is why others haven't picked up the slack here.
There are some really nice free fonts out there (many of which have been
featured on Smashing Magazine<http://www.smashingmagazine.com/category/fonts/>)
that could easily be included in Firefox installs—like these for
example<http://www.kpao.org/2007/12/best-free-fonts.html>
.

Or how about Adobe? They have amazing reach with both Flash and Reader, and
they also have an amazing library of typefaces <http://www.adobe.com/type/>.
How about Adobe picking up some slack here and giving a bit back to the
Internet community that made it the powerhouse it is today?

Or Google? They licensed the Droid fonts
<http://www.ascendercorp.com/pr/pr2007_11_12.html>for their Android phone
platform. How about extending use of these fonts to computers as well?

Ah well. I'm still going to use SIFR <http://novemberborn.net/sifr3> for my
designs.

·Dave

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Jeffrey D. Gimzek <listserv at jdgimzek.com>
wrote:

>
> i thought Arial and Trebuchet were the two best fonts in the world,
> and that's why everyone (including me!) uses them ?
>
> jd
>
>
>

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