Would you test my designs?

22 Jan 2009 - 1:31pm
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jeff noyes
2008

I need to create a panel of users to guide our design direction. I'm
looking for people to help. This shouldn't take much of your time,
e.g, an occasional review of screens, or a quick remote usability
study (requires only a computer and phone/skype). I essentially need
folks that are familiar with social publishing sites like Ning.com or
CMS tools like Wordpress.com.

If you think you can help, please respond to this 4 question survey:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=SfOJUOrIbXlvihjQhHQTVw_3d_3d

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22 Jan 2009 - 4:54pm
jeff noyes
2008

Actually, I am interested in free design advice. I attached a
survey, which will qualify the person giving the advice. So long as
you qualify, I'm all ears.

On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> I'm sure it was not your intent, but it reads like you are after
> people to provide free design advice, but you would like to
> interview them first :)
>
> Cheers, Andrew
>
> Andrew Boyd facibus at gmail.com
> http://uxbookclub.org -- connect, read, discuss
>
>
> On 23/01/2009, at 5:31 AM, Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com> wrote:
>
>> I need to create a panel of users to guide our design direction.
>> I'm looking for people to help. This shouldn't take much of your
>> time, e.g, an occasional review of screens, or a quick remote
>> usability study (requires only a computer and phone/skype). I
>> essentially need folks that are familiar with social publishing
>> sites like Ning.com or CMS tools like Wordpress.com.
>>
>> If you think you can help, please respond to this 4 question survey:
>>
>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=SfOJUOrIbXlvihjQhHQTVw_3d_3d
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
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23 Jan 2009 - 3:31am
Mike Padgett
2008

"This forum is for people who want to discuss issues, theories, methods, etc. about interaction design practice."
(http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php)

Um, so how do *you* qualify?

>Actually, I am interested in free design advice. I attached a
>survey, which will qualify the person giving the advice. So long as
>you qualify, I'm all ears.
>
>
>On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I'm sure it was not your intent, but it reads like you are after
>> people to provide free design advice, but you would like to
>> interview them first :)
>>
>> Cheers, Andrew
>>
>> Andrew Boyd facibus at gmail.com
>> http://uxbookclub.org -- connect, read, discuss
>>
>>
>> On 23/01/2009, at 5:31 AM, Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I need to create a panel of users to guide our design direction.
>>> I'm looking for people to help. This shouldn't take much of your
>>> time, e.g, an occasional review of screens, or a quick remote
>>> usability study (requires only a computer and phone/skype). I
>>> essentially need folks that are familiar with social publishing
>>> sites like Ning.com or CMS tools like Wordpress.com.
>>>
>>> If you think you can help, please respond to this 4 question survey:
>>>
>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=SfOJUOrIbXlvihjQhHQTVw_3d_3d
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
>>> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines
>>> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
>
>________________________________________________________________
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23 Jan 2009 - 4:12am
Andrew Boyd
2008

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Mike Padgett <mike.padgett at fincaso.com>wrote:

> "This forum is for people who want to discuss issues, theories, methods,
> etc. about interaction design practice."
> (http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php)
>
> Um, so how do *you* qualify?
>
>
Hi Mike,

perhaps we could discuss Jeff's offer in terms of group behaviour - some
people set fires, some people put them out, and then there is the kid
standing off to one side with the flip cam and the baseball cap on backwards
exploiting the commercial opportunity offered by all that action :)

Best regards, Andrew

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23 Jan 2009 - 8:35am
jeff noyes
2008

I'm an interaction designer myself, and want to collect advice from
peers. Is that so wrong?

On Jan 23, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Mike Padgett wrote:

> "This forum is for people who want to discuss issues, theories,
> methods, etc. about interaction design practice."
> (http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php)
>
> Um, so how do *you* qualify?
>
>
>> Actually, I am interested in free design advice. I attached a
>> survey, which will qualify the person giving the advice. So long as
>> you qualify, I'm all ears.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> I'm sure it was not your intent, but it reads like you are after
>>> people to provide free design advice, but you would like to
>>> interview them first :)
>>>
>>> Cheers, Andrew
>>>
>>> Andrew Boyd facibus at gmail.com
>>> http://uxbookclub.org -- connect, read, discuss
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23/01/2009, at 5:31 AM, Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I need to create a panel of users to guide our design direction.
>>>> I'm looking for people to help. This shouldn't take much of your
>>>> time, e.g, an occasional review of screens, or a quick remote
>>>> usability study (requires only a computer and phone/skype). I
>>>> essentially need folks that are familiar with social publishing
>>>> sites like Ning.com or CMS tools like Wordpress.com.
>>>>
>>>> If you think you can help, please respond to this 4 question
>>>> survey:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=SfOJUOrIbXlvihjQhHQTVw_3d_3d
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>>>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
>>>> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines
>>>> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
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> ________________________________________________________________
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23 Jan 2009 - 8:46am
SemanticWill
2007

No Jeff, your right -
that is exactly one of the reasons the IxDA is a community of practice
- to provide advice, review, instruction, a second glance - and
support - not just to pontificate over DTDT or user vs use-centered
design.
sign me up - ignore the haters.

Peace!

~ will

"Where you innovate, how you innovate,
and what you innovate are design problems"

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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http://blog.semanticfoundry.com
aim: semanticwill
gtalk: semanticwill
twitter: semanticwill
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On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Jeff Noyes wrote:

> I'm an interaction designer myself, and want to collect advice from
> peers. Is that so wrong?
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Mike Padgett wrote:
>
>> "This forum is for people who want to discuss issues, theories,
>> methods, etc. about interaction design practice."
>> (http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php)
>>
>> Um, so how do *you* qualify?
>>
>>
>>> Actually, I am interested in free design advice. I attached a
>>> survey, which will qualify the person giving the advice. So long as
>>> you qualify, I'm all ears.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure it was not your intent, but it reads like you are after
>>>> people to provide free design advice, but you would like to
>>>> interview them first :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Andrew
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Boyd facibus at gmail.com
>>>> http://uxbookclub.org -- connect, read, discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23/01/2009, at 5:31 AM, Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I need to create a panel of users to guide our design direction.
>>>>> I'm looking for people to help. This shouldn't take much of your
>>>>> time, e.g, an occasional review of screens, or a quick remote
>>>>> usability study (requires only a computer and phone/skype). I
>>>>> essentially need folks that are familiar with social publishing
>>>>> sites like Ning.com or CMS tools like Wordpress.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think you can help, please respond to this 4 question
>>>>> survey:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=SfOJUOrIbXlvihjQhHQTVw_3d_3d
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>>>>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>>>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
>>>>> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines
>>>>> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
>>>
>>> ________________________________________________________________
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>>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
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>> ________________________________________________________________
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>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
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>
> ________________________________________________________________
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23 Jan 2009 - 3:07pm
Angel Marquez
2008

Should I call you hypocrite because of the hate email you sent me, Will?

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Will Evans <wkevans4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> No Jeff, your right -
> that is exactly one of the reasons the IxDA is a community of practice - to
> provide advice, review, instruction, a second glance - and support - not
> just to pontificate over DTDT or user vs use-centered design.
> sign me up - ignore the haters.
>
> Peace!
>
> ~ will
>
> "Where you innovate, how you innovate,
> and what you innovate are design problems"
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Will Evans | User Experience Architect
> tel: +1.617.281.1281 | will at semanticfoundry.com
> http://blog.semanticfoundry.com
> aim: semanticwill
> gtalk: semanticwill
> twitter: semanticwill
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Jeff Noyes wrote:
>
> I'm an interaction designer myself, and want to collect advice from peers.
>> Is that so wrong?
>>
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Mike Padgett wrote:
>>
>> "This forum is for people who want to discuss issues, theories, methods,
>>> etc. about interaction design practice."
>>> (http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php)
>>>
>>> Um, so how do *you* qualify?
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, I am interested in free design advice. I attached a
>>>> survey, which will qualify the person giving the advice. So long as
>>>> you qualify, I'm all ears.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure it was not your intent, but it reads like you are after
>>>>> people to provide free design advice, but you would like to
>>>>> interview them first :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew Boyd facibus at gmail.com
>>>>> http://uxbookclub.org -- connect, read, discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/01/2009, at 5:31 AM, Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to create a panel of users to guide our design direction.
>>>>>> I'm looking for people to help. This shouldn't take much of your
>>>>>> time, e.g, an occasional review of screens, or a quick remote
>>>>>> usability study (requires only a computer and phone/skype). I
>>>>>> essentially need folks that are familiar with social publishing
>>>>>> sites like Ning.com or CMS tools like Wordpress.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think you can help, please respond to this 4 question survey:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=SfOJUOrIbXlvihjQhHQTVw_3d_3d
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>>>>>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>>>>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
>>>>>> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines
>>>>>> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>>>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
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>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
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>
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23 Jan 2009 - 3:44pm
Steve Baty
2009

Jeff,

(Written in the most reasonable tone...)

What you're attempting to do is admirable: gather a group of experienced
(and qualified - for your needs) interaction designers who are willing to
provide you with assistance, as a way of improving your own work. In many
respects, it's for exactly that reason that I'm a member of this discussion
list.

I'd like you to consider the function of this list in relation to your
needs, and tell us why a discussion of your design questions - as they arise
- would be inappropriate in a list environment. And I ask that because a big
part of what makes this list valuable to so many people is that questions
from hundreds of people each month are considered, discussed, and
(hopefully) resolved, through the collective input of the thousands of
designers participating.

In setting up your own 'panel of experts', you're essentially taking away a
part of the value of the list for others. You will find that there is also a
reaction to providing free advice: in the context of the discussion list
many participants are more than happy to offer up their expertise to the
betterment of the group; but they will be reluctant to do the same for an
individual; and a professional at that.

So I'd ask you to ponder the option of continuing to post your questions
openly to the list and letting the entire community both contribute and, in
so doing, learn.

Regards
Steve

2009/1/24 Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com>

> I'm an interaction designer myself, and want to collect advice from peers.
> Is that so wrong?
>
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Mike Padgett wrote:
>
> "This forum is for people who want to discuss issues, theories, methods,
>> etc. about interaction design practice."
>> (http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php)
>>
>> Um, so how do *you* qualify?
>>
>>
>> Actually, I am interested in free design advice. I attached a
>>> survey, which will qualify the person giving the advice. So long as
>>> you qualify, I'm all ears.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure it was not your intent, but it reads like you are after
>>>> people to provide free design advice, but you would like to
>>>> interview them first :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Andrew
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Boyd facibus at gmail.com
>>>> http://uxbookclub.org -- connect, read, discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23/01/2009, at 5:31 AM, Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I need to create a panel of users to guide our design direction.
>>>>> I'm looking for people to help. This shouldn't take much of your
>>>>> time, e.g, an occasional review of screens, or a quick remote
>>>>> usability study (requires only a computer and phone/skype). I
>>>>> essentially need folks that are familiar with social publishing
>>>>> sites like Ning.com or CMS tools like Wordpress.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think you can help, please respond to this 4 question survey:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=SfOJUOrIbXlvihjQhHQTVw_3d_3d
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>>>>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>>>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
>>>>> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines
>>>>> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
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>>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
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>>
>
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23 Jan 2009 - 3:26pm
Josiah Johnson
2009

I've recently joined onto this IxDA thread, and while I don't have
much cred in this community, I'd like to point out that we're
starting to get pretty unprofessional as this thread goes on. If your
post essentially amounts to spam or personal attacks, I'd rather not
see it on this thread.

What I mean to say is, while a few of the earlier people had
potentially valid objections to using this thread for simple work
advice, the commentary is starting to degrade.

Let's keep it professional and on topic people.

Thank you.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=37519

25 Jan 2009 - 9:06pm
jeff noyes
2008

I totally agree. I'm shocked at where this post went.

The fact of the matter is you, my fellow designer, are my target
audience (so long as you have CMS experience). As an experience
designer, I not only want to talk to you, I want your advice on how
you could improve my work. If this is wrong, I question the integrity
of this forum.

I don't however think it is wrong. And the response rate I received
also suggests it is not wrong. Thank you for those that signed up.
You'll be hearing from me in the not-so-distant future.

Jeff

On Jan 23, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Josiah Johnson wrote:

> I've recently joined onto this IxDA thread, and while I don't have
> much cred in this community, I'd like to point out that we're
> starting to get pretty unprofessional as this thread goes on. If your
> post essentially amounts to spam or personal attacks, I'd rather not
> see it on this thread.
>
> What I mean to say is, while a few of the earlier people had
> potentially valid objections to using this thread for simple work
> advice, the commentary is starting to degrade.
>
> Let's keep it professional and on topic people.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> Posted from the new ixda.org
> http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=37519
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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25 Jan 2009 - 9:15pm
Angel Marquez
2008

Not only is it not wrong it is not fair.
I already signed into and up for a few similar requests and those threads
never went off the cliff of high brow IX elitism.

Must just be bad timing.

I wasn't in the mood or I would've. Sorry dude.

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com> wrote:

> I totally agree. I'm shocked at where this post went.
>
> The fact of the matter is you, my fellow designer, are my target audience
> (so long as you have CMS experience). As an experience designer, I not only
> want to talk to you, I want your advice on how you could improve my work.
> If this is wrong, I question the integrity of this forum.
>
> I don't however think it is wrong. And the response rate I received also
> suggests it is not wrong. Thank you for those that signed up. You'll be
> hearing from me in the not-so-distant future.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Josiah Johnson wrote:
>
> I've recently joined onto this IxDA thread, and while I don't have
>> much cred in this community, I'd like to point out that we're
>> starting to get pretty unprofessional as this thread goes on. If your
>> post essentially amounts to spam or personal attacks, I'd rather not
>> see it on this thread.
>>
>> What I mean to say is, while a few of the earlier people had
>> potentially valid objections to using this thread for simple work
>> advice, the commentary is starting to degrade.
>>
>> Let's keep it professional and on topic people.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> Posted from the new ixda.org
>> http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=37519
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
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>
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25 Jan 2009 - 10:16pm
Andrew Boyd
2008

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Jeff Noyes <jeff.noyes at acquia.com> wrote:

> I totally agree. I'm shocked at where this post went.
>
> The fact of the matter is you, my fellow designer, are my target audience
> (so long as you have CMS experience). As an experience designer, I not only
> want to talk to you, I want your advice on how you could improve my work.
> If this is wrong, I question the integrity of this forum.
>
> I don't however think it is wrong. And the response rate I received also
> suggests it is not wrong. Thank you for those that signed up. You'll be
> hearing from me in the not-so-distant future.
>
> Jeff
>
>
Jeff,

what I found odd was that you were asking for advice and asking people to
pre-qualify with the survey - not that you were asking for help, but that
you wanted to check people out prior to accepting their help. When I asked,
you confirmed that you did want to pre-qualify people.

I spend most of my off-work time helping people, and I am no stranger to
being asked to help, or offering to do so. This doesn't make me fit to offer
you advice in this particular field - but I've never asked anyone to
pre-qualify prior to hearing what they have to say, and I've never been
asked to prove myself through survey prior to offering advice. People know
me or they don't, and if they don't, they may take whatever I say with a
grain of salt, and I'm not offended.

Perhaps it is a cultural thing, but the inference created by
pre-qualification was that the average reader of this list was not fit to
offer you advice. Which may or may not be correct depending on the source,
but it does seem a little tactless to mention it. That was the beginning and
the end of the discomfort I felt at your request. I wish you all the very
best with this process, and trust you will understand that I do not wish to
have anything to do with it myself, regardless of any CMS experience that I
may have had.

Best regards, Andrew

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Andrew Boyd
http://uxbookclub.org -- connect, read, discuss

26 Jan 2009 - 12:37pm
Alex ONeal
2008

>
> "what I found odd was that you were asking for advice and asking people to
> pre-qualify with the survey - not that you were asking for help, but that
> you wanted to check people out prior to accepting their help."

When I am conducting design research, one of the things I want is a profile
of the audience I'm researching. I don't know what was in Jeff's mind when
he wrote the survey, but my initial interpretation was that he simply wanted
to know what he was dealing with, and wanted to be able to evaluate
responses according to level of expertise. On a forum like this, which is
open to anyone, there are probable broad variations in training and
experience, so I was not offended by the questions.

I think Jeff probably already has access to a low-experience group for
evaluation. What he's looking for is a high level of expertise. The only
way to find out with our group, apart from deploying an army of private
detectives, is to ask.

bests to all,
Alex

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