Netbooks lead the way on how we%u2019ll be using our mobile phones in the near future

17 Aug 2009 - 12:46pm
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Dave Malouf
2005

What if your phone was a removable part of your netbook. Ala the
"Folio" by Palm. I think their implementation and specs were off,
but I think the idea has huge possibilities. Take a razor sized
iPhone that can slip into a "netbook" sized form-factor keyboard &
screen ( ports, mic & camera) and damn! you've got quite the
machine.

Further, when docked the phone can gain access to extra CPU cycles
AND extra RAM/GPU support as well.

I don't know why no one has done this yet. If a single set up cost
about $800 (before operator discounting) and $300 after, I bet
they'd be bought at a rate that would work for both manufacturer and
operator alike.

Moto, Nokia, Aus, Samsung, I see a huge leap frog for you guys. BB
could never do it, and Apple hasn't done it yet (and you can work
faster than Apple).

Anyway, that's me!

-- dave

-- dave

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17 Aug 2009 - 12:57pm
Sharon Greenfield5
2008

Why netbooks and not MIDs?

On Aug 17, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Dave Malouf wrote:

> What if your phone was a removable part of your netbook. Ala the
> "Folio" by Palm. I think their implementation and specs were off,
> but I think the idea has huge possibilities. Take a razor sized
> iPhone that can slip into a "netbook" sized form-factor keyboard &
> screen ( ports, mic & camera) and damn! you've got quite the
> machine.
>
>
>
> -- dave\

17 Aug 2009 - 1:01pm
Jack L. Moffett
2005

On Aug 17, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Dave Malouf wrote:

> Take a razor sized
> iPhone that can slip into a "netbook" sized form-factor keyboard &
> screen ( ports, mic & camera) and damn! you've got quite the
> machine.

This is actually what I've imagined the rumored Apple iTablet thingy
to be. I probably wouldn't be interested in a tablet for which I had
to buy another service plan for internet access, but I might
interested in a tablet-type of device that was basically a larger
screen/additional storage/additional battery/additional functionality
for my iPhone.

I dig it. But I don't believe Apple would do it that way.

Jack

Jack L. Moffett
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17 Aug 2009 - 2:17pm
Dave Malouf
2005

What's teh difference btw an MID and a Netbook and a Smartbook
besides who is controlling the marketing.
maybe you can say an MID is a slate vs. a netbook is a clamshell? But
I would put it at mobile chip Intel Atom or ARM, with sub 10" screen,
low (usually flash storage), and good RAM.

I personally preform the clams to the slates. (typing this on a an HP
Mini 1000 running ubuntu).

-- dave

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17 Aug 2009 - 2:59pm
Nasir Barday
2006

Generally, MIDs are souped-up smartphones, while netbooks are pared-down
laptops. MIDs run smartphone platforms and have slightly more powerful
processors than most mobile devices, while Netbooks run traditional desktop
OSs and include Atom, which leads to lower battery life but yields a bit
more power.

I do like the idea of having a larger screen and more horsepower when I'm
sitting on a train, plane, or coffee shop, and having that same data
available on my phone.

What I really want, though, is Antenna Design's Ori-Ori Moshi-Moshi. It's a
large-screen display! Oh wait, fold it in half and it's a tablet! But wait!
There's more! Fold a few more times and it's a phone!
http://www.gearfuse.com/ori-ori-moshi-moshi-flexy-multimedia-device-from-the-future/

- N

17 Aug 2009 - 3:07pm
Christopher Rider
2009

I foresee less of an explicit hardware convergence, and more
interoperability. I.e. the tablet/netbook should seamlessly leverage
my phone for data access via bluetooth...

"Seamless" being the operative term in that concept.

There is an interesting interaction problem here. If I carry
different devices depending on what I'm doing on a given day, how do
easily I tell the carrier which device I want to receive calls on?

More generally, can we come up with some standardized ways for me to
configure the devices in my personal-area network on the fly?

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18 Aug 2009 - 12:03am
Uidude
2009

I thought about this similar to what Dave Malouf had mentioned at
first - the phone being a removable part of the net-book.

Seeing it from another angle, rather making it a removable part from
a net-book, how if it were a pluggable to a net-book or any other
porting station (not sticking only to a net-book here). The porting
station could be a net-book, or a full sized desktop workstation, or
a work computer at office, or just anybody else s home computer.
While the compactness of the mobile can be enjoyed as is primarily on
the move, users can optionally plug it (or slide like those PCMCIA
cards) to a net-book shell that got its 10", optimal keyboard
usability. Or it could be plugged to the desktop workstation at home
or office with a really wide high res screen and full sized regular
keyboard. The point is, the mobile phone becomes primary operating
device containing full power providing mobile ability when needed,
maybe with limited usability, but users always get the option to
choose how they want to use the computing power on a scaled secondary
physical device.

Imagine a new avatar of i-phone that Apple says you can plug it to
their net-book shell or desktop shell... You can carry the i-phone
when you want to, and to use as a net-book you plug it to the
net-book shell, and when at home, plug it to the CPU deck and start
using the full comfortable keyboard with high resolution screen.

Revisiting the basic block diagram, I see the CPU has to be
"pluggable" to scalable input(keyboard) and output(display)
devices.

This could mean a new interesting bond among mobile, processor,
hardware, OS manufacturers :)

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18 Aug 2009 - 6:42am
Jack L. Moffett
2005

It sounds like you are describing IBM's Metapad:
http://www-03.ibm.com/technology/designconsulting/port_metapad.html

Best,
Jack

On Aug 17, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Shivan Kannan wrote:

> Seeing it from another angle, rather making it a removable part from
> a net-book, how if it were a pluggable to a net-book or any other
> porting station (not sticking only to a net-book here). The porting
> station could be a net-book, or a full sized desktop workstation, or
> a work computer at office, or just anybody else s home computer.

Jack L. Moffett
Senior Interaction Designer
inmedius
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No one is born there.

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18 Aug 2009 - 7:35am
Uidude
2009

wow, I never knew IBM had something like that already... Am happy I
was able to get my brain working that far :)

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18 Aug 2009 - 8:31am
.pauric
2006

Chris Rider: "There is an interesting interaction problem here. If I
carry different devices depending on what I'm doing on a given day,
how do easily I tell the carrier which device I want to receive calls
on?"

I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head.

A brief study in failed product design;
http://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2009/081709-heisler-apple-disasters.html
Excluding products that were released before the technology was
affordable enough we can look at the
Macintosh TV & Macintosh Portable as examples of products that
neither one thing or the other and end up being the worst of both
worlds. I believe this is the case with the ever changing attempts
at the one-size-fits-all swiss army knife killer device holy grail.
Such a product is a myth, golden rule: do one thing, do it well and
dont spread yourself thin. Smartphone-netbook-tablet-laptop, each
does something very well that the others cannot due to an immovable
constraint of physical size.

No such single product will every meet the needs of varying everyday
contexts. However, as Chris suggests, as we are the single
consistent component in each and every interaction then the solution
will lie in some method of each device becoming the primary
connection to our data and services as we interact with it. A level
of seamlessness to the degree that when I pick up my smartphone and
open the browser it contains the same sites I was looking at a minute
ago on my tablet.

Swiss army knifes are nice, the right tool for the given job is
better.

/pauric

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18 Aug 2009 - 9:38am
.pauric
2006

Gregor: "Looks like Google is trying to sort that problem by being
device independent."

I would consider Google voice and skype as the first wedge between
the carriers and hardware. The only reason a particular phone might
be 'associated' with a single carrier is to leverage as much money
from your pocket as possible. As soon as we have portability they
lose control. And its going to happen one way or the other.

However I think that is only a small, albeit important, part of the
how the interaction story will play out in the long term. We as
designers have some very interesting times/challenges ahead.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/race_to_data_portability_google_chrome_vs_mozilla.php

/pauric

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26 Aug 2009 - 11:33am
Uidude
2009

Try checking out this:
http://allcurrenthotnews.com/?p=382

Twelve South has recently announced the BookArc, which is a metal
stand designed to hold any Apple MacBook... The stand is designed to
free up desk space by allowing the MacBook to operate in a vertical
position...

So it is only the screen and keyboard, while the macbook (or even
netbooks) become the CPU. Just wish the next macbook can hold an
iphone this way. Seems to me like nested devices as in nested coding
tags. Choosing how you want to compute things :)

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26 Aug 2009 - 12:05pm
Erik Johnson
2009

The idea of the iPhone being a removable part of the netbook would be fantastic and I hope that's what they are doing.

A stand for a laptop - not so much. That would be just like every other docking station out there - but vertical..?

26 Aug 2009 - 1:30pm
Dave Malouf
2005

Have people seen this company called Modu?
they have an interesting take on all this:
http://modumobile.com/

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