are we an early indicator of economic recovery?

18 Dec 2009 - 9:45am
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Mark Schraad
2006

I've been watching the job announcements on this forum and there seems
to be an uptick in the last couple of months.

My theory is that skill sets in high demand can be an early indicator
of economic recovery. I am measuring this based upon salary and my
perception of unemployment in amongst our profession. I honestly don't
know to many Ixd's that are unemployed. Not very scientific... but
that is what I am operating with and basing my hunch upon.

Just wondering your thoughts. Is there an increased demand for what we
do in these recent months? Do you think that is an indicator of a
better economy coming?

Mark

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18 Dec 2009 - 10:06am
jpb
2009

> Is there an increased demand for what we do in these recent months?

I buy that.

> Do you think that is an indicator of a better economy coming?

Not necessarily. The web sector is growing and maturing and our skills
are in demand, but web-based models may be popular because they're so
much more productive. Those who work in the classifieds business
probably don't think the rise of Craigslist is good for the economy.
This is what they call "creative destruction", right? I wouldn't
expect trends in our industry to necessarily map to the larger
economy.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:45 AM, mark schraad <mschraad at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been watching the job announcements on this forum and there seems
> to be an uptick in the last couple of months.
>
> My theory is that skill sets in high demand can be an early indicator
> of economic recovery. I am measuring this based upon salary and my
> perception of unemployment in amongst our profession. I honestly don't
> know to many Ixd's that are unemployed. Not very scientific... but
> that is what I am operating with and basing my hunch upon.
>
> Just wondering your thoughts. Is there an increased demand for what we
> do in these recent months? Do you think that is an indicator of a
> better economy coming?
>
> Mark
>
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18 Dec 2009 - 10:10am
jrrogan
2005

I think you could be right, but our field may not be a very strong
indicator as I don't think we were hit that hard.

Keep in mind in the last economic crisis, the dot com crash, we were front
and center and a fairly good indicator of tech sector life. Considering
this, we are probably a weaker indicator now as we're a fringe part of the
crisis and work force.
Rich

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:45 AM, mark schraad <mschraad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been watching the job announcements on this forum and there seems to
> be an uptick in the last couple of months.
>
> My theory is that skill sets in high demand can be an early indicator of
> economic recovery.
>

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18 Dec 2009 - 10:21am
Anonymous

I think of it more as an indicator that companies are realizing that the
feature wars are over, and a better consumer experience will position them
better in their respective markets. That sentiment is amplified by a down
economy when companies are looking to make fewer, more exceptional products.
Our field fits into both those desires, and so we become more in demand.

My two cents anyway. :-)

Doug Brown
dougb at finitemonkey.com

On 12/18/09 9:45 AM, "mark schraad" <mschraad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been watching the job announcements on this forum and there seems
> to be an uptick in the last couple of months.
>
> My theory is that skill sets in high demand can be an early indicator
> of economic recovery. I am measuring this based upon salary and my
> perception of unemployment in amongst our profession. I honestly don't
> know to many Ixd's that are unemployed. Not very scientific... but
> that is what I am operating with and basing my hunch upon.
>
> Just wondering your thoughts. Is there an increased demand for what we
> do in these recent months? Do you think that is an indicator of a
> better economy coming?
>
> Mark
> ________________________________________________________________
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18 Dec 2009 - 10:25am
Bill Barranco
2009

Your industry segment is very, very small, however important you
people think you are, but very very much on the front edge. I did not
really see any "downturn" in demand for people with your skills, not
compared to the 10% unemployment nationally.

I am still seeking a creative, Senior Interaction Designer (no WEB
designers please) for working at one of the most stable and
progressive US corporations in the the South Eastern States.

See my web site for details, Job #1 at www.auto-vision.com

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18 Dec 2009 - 10:57am
harvinder
2007

You might be right about an increased demand for UX professionals.We are a
nationwide User Experience Staffing agency and just in the last two months
for some reason we saw an increase in job orders. It looks like not only
money is flowing in the economy atleast for now from all the stimulus
package from Obama but also companies which were far behind on the curve of
UX are trying to match their competitiors and it is becoming a necessity for
them now just to stay afloat.
Companies are now not able to delay any more the UX projects which they had
been delaying so far but the skill sets in demand are becoming extremely
specific. Companies do not want an interaction designer with 5-10 years of
experience any more. They want people with specific experience in financial
industry or desktop applications or mobile applications or whatever their
business is so they don't have to invest in the person to learn.
Economic indicators are still saying very slow recovery atleast until June
of 2010 is what I am hearing.

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I think of it more as an indicator that companies are realizing that the
feature wars are over, and a better consumer experience will position them
better in their respective markets. That sentiment is amplified by a down
economy when companies are looking to make fewer, more exceptional products.
Our field fits into both those desires, and so we become more in demand.

My two cents anyway. :-)

Doug Brown
dougb at finitemonkey.com

On 12/18/09 9:45 AM, "mark schraad" <mschraad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been watching the job announcements on this forum and there seems
> to be an uptick in the last couple of months.
>
> My theory is that skill sets in high demand can be an early indicator
> of economic recovery. I am measuring this based upon salary and my
> perception of unemployment in amongst our profession. I honestly don't
> know to many Ixd's that are unemployed. Not very scientific... but
> that is what I am operating with and basing my hunch upon.
>
> Just wondering your thoughts. Is there an increased demand for what we
> do in these recent months? Do you think that is an indicator of a
> better economy coming?
>
> Mark
> ________________________________________________________________
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18 Dec 2009 - 11:48am
mjpaulus79
2009

Hi Mark,

I absolutely think that UX professionals are in high demand and the future of this professional looks very promising. Although I am not sure that this is directly correlated to economic recovery in general, It bodes well for UX in general. Although, I must say that I personally think that we will be approaching economic recovery in mid to late 2010.

Working at Aquent (The worlds largest creative staffing agency), we have adjusted to this demand by creating a user experience team who is able to focus on user experience professionals and positions. With more than 50 years of hands-on combined experience within our group we have found a great deal of success in the last 3 months. Clients are very interested in adding this capacity to their teams (if they haven't already) and I have a unique opportunity to evangelize UX and the benefits of employing the UCD process.

There are a few things to note regarding this uptick in growth. Normally we see a lul in UX needs towards the end of the year and this year has been very unusual. I believe this is based on the fact that the economic downturn delayed project launches and people are still scrambling to complete projects. We also usually see a spike in February and March, so I think that 2010 is going to be an excellent year for UX professionals.

As a UX professional myself - I am looking forward to what 2010 has in store for us and am excited by the fact that our trade is being increasingly accepted as a way to increase the bottom line.

18 Dec 2009 - 11:47am
Shelly Cawood
2009

I think its more an indicator that people are realising the need more
for our line of work, which does not necessarily go hand in hand with
the need for other professions. Companies have realised to survive
they need to look at the best way to move their business forward.

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18 Dec 2009 - 11:48am
Anonymous

In general, this is the hiring season. Folks are executing on their
beginning of FY plans and bring in the talent they need to execute.

~stacy

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Harvinder <harvinder at bestica.com> wrote:

> You might be right about an increased demand for UX professionals.We are a
> nationwide User Experience Staffing agency and just in the last two months
> for some reason we saw an increase in job orders. It looks like not only
> money is flowing in the economy atleast for now from all the stimulus
> package from Obama but also companies which were far behind on the curve of
> UX are trying to match their competitiors and it is becoming a necessity
> for
> them now just to stay afloat.
> Companies are now not able to delay any more the UX projects which they had
> been delaying so far but the skill sets in demand are becoming extremely
> specific. Companies do not want an interaction designer with 5-10 years of
> experience any more. They want people with specific experience in financial
> industry or desktop applications or mobile applications or whatever their
> business is so they don't have to invest in the person to learn.
> Economic indicators are still saying very slow recovery atleast until June
> of 2010 is what I am hearing.
>
> Harvinder Singh
> 210-614-4198 O
> 210-884-1311 C
> harvinder at bestica.com
> www.bestica.com
> Bridging the UX/IT Talent Gap
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> Follow Me on Twitter
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Doug
> Brown
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:21 AM
> To: list IXDA
> Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] are we an early indicator of economic recovery?
>
> I think of it more as an indicator that companies are realizing that the
> feature wars are over, and a better consumer experience will position them
> better in their respective markets. That sentiment is amplified by a down
> economy when companies are looking to make fewer, more exceptional
> products.
> Our field fits into both those desires, and so we become more in demand.
>
> My two cents anyway. :-)
>
> Doug Brown
> dougb at finitemonkey.com
>
>
> On 12/18/09 9:45 AM, "mark schraad" <mschraad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been watching the job announcements on this forum and there seems
> > to be an uptick in the last couple of months.
> >
> > My theory is that skill sets in high demand can be an early indicator
> > of economic recovery. I am measuring this based upon salary and my
> > perception of unemployment in amongst our profession. I honestly don't
> > know to many Ixd's that are unemployed. Not very scientific... but
> > that is what I am operating with and basing my hunch upon.
> >
> > Just wondering your thoughts. Is there an increased demand for what we
> > do in these recent months? Do you think that is an indicator of a
> > better economy coming?
> >
> > Mark
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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18 Dec 2009 - 11:52am
Scott McDaniel
2007

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:47 AM, shelly <shelly at lamity.org> wrote:
> I think its more an indicator that people are realising the need more
> for our line of work, which does not necessarily go hand in hand with
> the need for other professions. Companies have realised to survive
> they need to look at the best way to move their business forward.

Yes,l this is very on the mark, I think.

It can be seen as one indication from certain angles - after all, in
my experience, UX-related people are
often the first on the chopping block when cuts are to be made ("What,
don't program and don't make peektures? I can open Visio myself!").
On the other hand, companies are learning the value in what we (in
theory) do in some cases, which can make for better news in tougher
times, as better design can make for better retention, buy-through,
ease of transitioning online and all that other stuff we say a bunch
on industry lists.
So it all kinda zeroes out.

Scott

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18 Dec 2009 - 12:57pm
Mark Schraad
2006

On Dec 18, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Bill Barranco wrote:

> Your industry segment is very, very small, however important you
> people think you are,

not sure I am reading this the way it was intended... but not a
particularly inviting request to apply. > Mark

> but very very much on the front edge. I did not
> really see any "downturn" in demand for people with your skills, not
> compared to the 10% unemployment nationally.
>
> I am still seeking a creative, Senior Interaction Designer (no WEB
> designers please) for working at one of the most stable and
> progressive US corporations in the the South Eastern States.
>
> See my web site for details, Job #1 at www.auto-vision.com

18 Dec 2009 - 2:04pm
ella Kallish
2009

The need for new hires demonstrates that companies are moving to
execute projects that were already in the pipeline when the economy
came to a halt last October. This Movement, while encouraging, may
not represent Growth or Innovation which leads to sustained job
growth. We'll have to wait to see if the execution of already
established projects mean that companies are moving ahead on the
status quo strategies already established or, if new R&D funding is
also in the works.

While there does seem to be more need for new talent, many of the
postings I've seen are for contract, intern, consulting, and
positions located Abroad. -- Goldman Sachs is hiring because it
became a depository last year and was able to buy small banks with
strong depositories on-the-cheap and now need to unify these
businesses -- All good but not long lasting with regard to long-term
job growth -- unification of like entities creates redundancies in
resources that inevitably leads to consolidation and job eliminations
across an enterprise.

Best
Ella
Ella Kallish
ella kallish inc
www.ellakallish.com
ella at ellakallish.com
305-931-7296

a more enlightened approach:-)

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20 Dec 2009 - 3:02pm
jet
2008

shelly wrote:
> I think its more an indicator that people are realising the need more
> for our line of work, which does not necessarily go hand in hand with
> the need for other professions. Companies have realised to survive
> they need to look at the best way to move their business forward.

In a similar vein, none of the security engineers (coding or sysadmin)
that I know have seen any real lack of work before or during the most
recent downturn. The only person I know who had trouble finding work
was a senior person looking for a senior position within a fixed
distance from his house, and even he found something in a couple of months.

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