What to call IxD?

14 Apr 2005 - 10:06pm
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dszuc
2005

Hi All:

Picking up on this thread again (think it was being discussed here) another
term for "interaction design" is "intelligent design"

This came out of a discussion over lunch last week with one of our
interaction designers. As he was walking through how he applies design and
as I was talking about bridging usability findings with the design - he said
"intelligent design"

Don't know if this has been used before, but quite like it as it shows that
there is purpose and research behind a design rather than a mix of visuals
and colours that looks nice but perhaps has no real value for the users and
business with the aim of improving the user experience.

Rgds,

Daniel Szuc
Principal Usability Consultant
Apogee Usability Asia Ltd
www.apogeehk.com
'Usability in Asia'

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15 Apr 2005 - 12:21am
Tadej Maligoj
2004

It is not a bad idea at all:
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>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
(Redirected from Intelligent)

Intelligence is a general mental capability that involves the ability
to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas
and language, and learn. In psychology, the study of intelligence is
related to the study of personality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent
___

Tadej

On 4/15/05, Daniel Szuc <dszuc at apogeehk.com> wrote:
> [Please voluntarily trim replies to include only relevant quoted material.]
>
> Hi All:
>
> Picking up on this thread again (think it was being discussed here) another
> term for "interaction design" is "intelligent design"
>
> This came out of a discussion over lunch last week with one of our
> interaction designers. As he was walking through how he applies design and
> as I was talking about bridging usability findings with the design - he said
> "intelligent design"
>
> Don't know if this has been used before, but quite like it as it shows that
> there is purpose and research behind a design rather than a mix of visuals
> and colours that looks nice but perhaps has no real value for the users and
> business with the aim of improving the user experience.
>
> Rgds,
>
> Daniel Szuc
> Principal Usability Consultant
> Apogee Usability Asia Ltd
> www.apogeehk.com
> 'Usability in Asia'
>
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15 Apr 2005 - 12:34am
Bill DeRouchey
2010

Well, I'm pretty against the term "intelligent design", but only because
it's been co-opted by the religious right here in the US as an "alternative
to evolutionary theory."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design

On the other hand, Buckminster Fuller's "anticipatory design" has some
interesting angles to it. Isn't anticipating what the person/user/customer
will need a big chunk of what we do? We may design some interaction,
architect some information, or contemplate the experience, but in the end,
isn't anticipation what we're systemically trying to comprehend and achieve?

Bill

> From: Tadej Maligoj
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:22 PM

> >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
> (Redirected from Intelligent)
>
> Intelligence is a general mental capability that involves the ability
> to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas
> and language, and learn. In psychology, the study of intelligence is
> related to the study of personality.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent

> On 4/15/05, Daniel Szuc <dszuc at apogeehk.com> wrote:

> > Picking up on this thread again (think it was being
> discussed here) another
> > term for "interaction design" is "intelligent design"
> >
> > This came out of a discussion over lunch last week with one of our
> > interaction designers. As he was walking through how he
> applies design and
> > as I was talking about bridging usability findings with the
> design - he said
> > "intelligent design"
> >
> > Don't know if this has been used before, but quite like it
> as it shows that
> > there is purpose and research behind a design rather than a
> mix of visuals
> > and colours that looks nice but perhaps has no real value
> for the users and
> > business with the aim of improving the user experience.

15 Apr 2005 - 12:58am
Tadej Maligoj
2004

On 4/15/05, Bill DeRouchey <bill at flume.com> wrote:
> Well, I'm pretty against the term "intelligent design", but only because
> it's been co-opted by the religious right here in the US as an "alternative
> to evolutionary theory."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design
___
... ID (Intelligent Design) advocates argue that the standard
scientific model of evolution by natural selection is insufficient to
explain the origin, complexity, and diversity of life. More
specifically, ID adherents believe that there exist instances of
irreducible complexity, which in their view are impossible to evolve
and therefore must have been created by an intelligent designer.
____

Well, this suits quite well with some thoughts on this discussion list
about "sacred" role of (intelligent) design against market-driven
(evolution) design.

Tadej

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15 Apr 2005 - 12:43pm
Andrei Herasimchuk
2004

Daniel Szuc wrote:

> Picking up on this thread again (think it was being discussed here) another
> term for "interaction design" is "intelligent design"

I can hear all the jokes from the engineers we have to work with already.

Just imagine the business card:

[Your Name Here]
Senior Intelligent Designer

Sigh.

Andrei

15 Apr 2005 - 4:57pm
Dan Saffer
2003

On Apr 15, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Daniel Szuc wrote:

> Another term for "interaction design" is "intelligent design"

Other types of designers aren't intelligent then?

Dan

23 Apr 2005 - 1:04pm
CD Evans
2004

Intelligent Design? What?!

I mean really, you can't be having this conversation.

Basically, we need to actually design something under any moniker,
including UI Design, ahem, which actually 'feels' like it's been
designed.

There isn't any software, or web system, that I know of which 'feels'
like it's been designed. If you read the recent article on the lack of
IA in Europe, it's because nothing out of the IA community has the
'feel' of design. I would suspect that, in most cultures, people aren't
going to accept any title, unless it comes from someone, or something,
which 'feels' designed.

No remote control, tv, teletext, airline booking system, website, vcr,
calculator, electronic thermometer, dos promt, windows, unix or mac
application 'feels' like it's been designed.

If you can show me an interactive system which 'feels' designed as much
as the twist tie, the eiffel tower, a nice quality pen or the paper
clip, we might have a title.

Anyhow, this is like choosing a band name, so I'm going to chip in
again:

Interaction Architecture
Information Interaction Design
Designer of Interactions
Interface Architecture (My new favorite, again.)

CD Evans

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> On Apr 15, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Daniel Szuc wrote:
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>> Another term for "interaction design" is "intelligent design"
>
> Other types of designers aren't intelligent then?
>
> Dan

23 Apr 2005 - 1:54pm
Dan Saffer
2003

On Apr 23, 2005, at 3:04 PM, CD Evans wrote:

> Basically, we need to actually design something under any moniker,
> including UI Design, ahem, which actually 'feels' like it's been
> designed.

> If you can show me an interactive system which 'feels' designed as
> much as the twist tie, the eiffel tower, a nice quality pen or the
> paper clip, we might have a title.

> There isn't any software, or web system, that I know of which 'feels'
> like it's been designed.

> If you read the recent article on the lack of IA in Europe, it's
> because nothing out of the IA community has the 'feel' of design. I
> would suspect that, in most cultures, people aren't going to accept
> any title, unless it comes from someone, or something, which 'feels'
> designed.
>
> No remote control, tv, teletext, airline booking system, website, vcr,
> calculator, electronic thermometer, dos promt, windows, unix or mac
> application 'feels' like it's been designed.

Can we move away from personal feelings? Those are subjective and apt
to change over time. Care to provide some concrete qualities for what
"feeling designed" might mean?

Most of the things you use as examples of good design are tools with a
single function. (I'm not sure how the Eiffel Tower got in there.) And
it's true that as a profession, we don't do a lot of those. The things
we design usually have multiple functions and live in complex
environments, although certainly the beloved iPod might fit your
criteria, whatever that is.

We do have a number of single-use widgets that work seamlessly and
smoothly, imho. The scrollbar is one that immediately springs to mind.

> Anyhow, this is like choosing a band name, so I'm going to chip in
> again:
>

Just stop. I'm begging you.

Dan Saffer
M. Design Candidate, Interaction Design
Carnegie Mellon University
http://www.odannyboy.com

23 Apr 2005 - 1:59pm
Per Sökjer
2004

That something feels designed in your world is not a very good
measurement.
You have to go into specifics... What is that feeling you describe? How
come a nice quality pen can feel like it's been designed
while Alias SketchBook cannot? Otherwise we're not getting anywhere.
What I can agree on is that the lack of design perspective in the
industry (that provides/torments us with dos prompts, vcrs and and
airline booking systems)
is horrifying, but there are a few good exceptions.

Regards
:Per

2005-04-23 kl. 21.04 skrev CD Evans:
>
> Basically, we need to actually design something under any moniker,
> including UI Design, ahem, which actually 'feels' like it's been
> designed.
>
> There isn't any software, or web system, that I know of which 'feels'
> like it's been designed. If you read the recent article on the lack of
> IA in Europe, it's because nothing out of the IA community has the
> 'feel' of design. I would suspect that, in most cultures, people
> aren't going to accept any title, unless it comes from someone, or
> something, which 'feels' designed.
>
> No remote control, tv, teletext, airline booking system, website, vcr,
> calculator, electronic thermometer, dos promt, windows, unix or mac
> application 'feels' like it's been designed.
>
> If you can show me an interactive system which 'feels' designed as
> much as the twist tie, the eiffel tower, a nice quality pen or the
> paper clip, we might have a title.
>

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