Re: en français -A problem?

12 Feb 2004 - 7:39pm
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George Schneiderman
2004

If there is a critical mass of people who speak French, or German, or
Klingon, or whatever, then clearly the group should look into forming
language-specific lists. But in the meantime, I for one certainly
don't see any harm in people posting non-English messages to the main
mostly-English list. I do think that people who want to do that should
probably indicate in the subject that the post is not in English, as
the recent posters in French have in fact done. Perhaps indicating
this in English ("in French" rather than "en français") would be even
more useful, since some English speakers (especially us Americans) can
be awfully provincial about foreign languages.

I would also like to say that I am disappointed by the tone of the
unnamed individual who sent that email to Juli. I have spent months of
my life regarding the French language as the bane of my existence (I
had to pass a translation exam for my master's degree and I am AWFUL at
languages), but I still think we should absolutely welcome the
internationalization of this group, even at the cost of encountering
the occasional email in French.

Just my opinion.

--George Schneiderman

On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 05:28 PM, jaubin wrote:

> RE: "start up a french-only discussion somewhere else" (see message
> received down below)
> eum...
> I understand what you mean but...
>  
> 1) the web site here:
> http://interactiondesigners.com/index_fr.html (which makes THIS
> particular address important) gathers all the people that agrees on a
> single term (interaction designer). And I'm interested in exchanging
> with those professionals. 
>  
> 2) This web site also proposes to  define and emplement the meaning
> and definition of the profession by the help of all. (all languages )
> for a larger use. (not only for english speaking persons....). So
> Isigned up my name on this forum to read and share ideas, because I
> thought it was a GREAT idea.
>  
> 3) And this web site only proposed ONE adress to exchange on this
> topic so far. (which you and I are using).
> -Oh well?
> And it's fine be me so far... (and probably certain others)...because
> on top of french I understand and use english as well and am
> interested in what other people are saying too. But I agree, that it
> could be a good idea to ask the users in wich language they wish to
> join the forum.
>  
> Speaking of good ideas:
> -I've been asking WHO took care of the website (Interaction
> designers.com) Had no answer yet.
> -I proposed my help to enhance the web site interface, and yes maybe
> add the feature your talking about... Had no answer yet.
> -suggested to the responsables some ideas to share with all others (no
> feedback yet)
> -I've read over 450 messages in english. No feedback to my
> questions...  I noticed that most are interested in exchanging "shop
> talk" instead of exchanging about the Meta view on the profession
> itself, and how to devellop the instrument "website" used to
> collaborate and diffuse the "Interaction designer, Concepteur
> d'interaction" notion as proposed by the website, and Tog. 
> (I wonder why that is...)
> Anyways... -Then when I finally seem to find people ( 2 months later )
> who do care about the meta subject but in French: I get your friendly
> message... ("Why don't you go elsewhere")
>  
> ...
>  
> Juli Aubin
>  
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: Re: [ID Discuss] en français
> > you asked if there were other people who wanted to speak en français,
> > and i assumed that you received replies from them. So, may i suggest
> > that if you don't want to post to the list in english (or in french
> and
> > english) that you start up a french-only discussion somewhere else?
>
> > Regards,
>  
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