Studio Fellowships

27 Dec 2005 - 10:57am
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Dave Malouf
2005

http://www.businessweek.com/mediacenter/podcasts/innovation/innovation_12_06
_05.htm

This podcast is really interesting to me. The idea that a studio would
create inside itself a "school" in this case a "fellowship" is very
interesting to me. I know nothing about these implementations, but just the
concept intrigues me.

I know we talk a lot about certification and grad programs on this (and well
every other UX list) and I have always been a little on the leery side when
it came to any sort of formal education and a big fan of anything more akin
to mentor/apprentice programs. I know that IAI has had a mentorship program
(I don't know that much about it), but traditional mentoring programs to me
fall short of the real value behind a guild-like experience, where the
certification comes from master after years of close-working together.

Anyway, just sorta inspired during this VERY dry period on the list to start
a discussion about informal education.

-- dave

David Heller
http://synapticburn.com/
http://ixdg.org/
Dave (at) ixdg (dot) org
Dave (at) synapticburn (dot) com
AIM: bolinhanyc || Y!: dave_ux || MSN: hippiefunk at hotmail.com

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27 Dec 2005 - 11:51am
Dave Malouf
2005

Some people were having problems w/ the link. I think b/c it got cut off w/
a line feed.
Here it is in tinyurl format: http://tinyurl.com/94uzx

I hope this works.

-- dave

On 12/27/05 11:08 AM, "Robert Hoekman, Jr." <mmbeta at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree. I think college programs fail miserably in a lot of cases
> (particularly in the web field), tending to leave out important pieces of
> useful, practical knowledge that ends up being learned in a trial-by-fire
> situation later on. I think it makes a lot more sense to learn in a mentoring
> situation. Many trades used to do this, and some still do. In the web
> industry, it just makes more sense. No project ever works like a class does.
> Things are never neatly divided into subject and projects never have just a
> single technology focus.
>
> I would have loved a mentor setup when I first started, and if the opportunity
> ever comes up, I'd be happy to be a mentor for someone else.
>
> -r-
>
>
> On 12/27/05, David Heller <dave at ixdg.org> wrote:
>> [Please voluntarily trim replies to include only relevant quoted material.]
>>
>> http://www.businessweek.com/mediacenter/podcasts/innovation/innovation_12_06
>> <http://www.businessweek.com/mediacenter/podcasts/innovation/innovation_12_06
>> >
>> _05.htm
>>
>> This podcast is really interesting to me. The idea that a studio would
>> create inside itself a "school" in this case a "fellowship" is very
>> interesting to me. I know nothing about these implementations, but just the
>> concept intrigues me.
>>
>> I know we talk a lot about certification and grad programs on this (and well
>> every other UX list) and I have always been a little on the leery side when
>> it came to any sort of formal education and a big fan of anything more akin
>> to mentor/apprentice programs. I know that IAI has had a mentorship program
>> (I don't know that much about it), but traditional mentoring programs to me
>> fall short of the real value behind a guild-like experience, where the
>> certification comes from master after years of close-working together.
>>
>> Anyway, just sorta inspired during this VERY dry period on the list to start
>> a discussion about informal education.
>>
>>
>> -- dave
>>
>> David Heller
>> http://synapticburn.com/
>> http://ixdg.org/
>> Dave (at) ixdg (dot) org
>> Dave (at) synapticburn (dot) com
>> AIM: bolinhanyc || Y!: dave_ux || MSN: hippiefunk at hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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-- dave

David Heller
http://synapticburn.com/
http://ixdg.org/
Dave (at) ixdg (dot) org
Dave (at) synapticburn (dot) com
AIM: bolinhanyc || Y!: dave_ux || MSN: hippiefunk at hotmail.com

28 Dec 2005 - 12:47am
Deepak Pakhare
2005

> On 12/27/05, David Heller <dave at ixdg.org> wrote:
>> [Please voluntarily trim replies to include only relevant quoted
material.]
>>
>>
http://www.businessweek.com/mediacenter/podcasts/innovation/innovation_12_06
>> <
http://www.businessweek.com/mediacenter/podcasts/innovation/innovation_12_06
>> >
>> _05.htm
>>
>> This podcast is really interesting to me. The idea that a studio would
>> create inside itself a "school" in this case a "fellowship" is very
>> interesting to me. I know nothing about these implementations, but just
the
>> concept intrigues me.

Hi Dave,
I was listening to the "Studio as School House" podcast just a while ago
and mulled over the idea of fellowships in the context of IXdg/IA/Usability
firms. What struck me as interesting was that the design studios of the kind
Moshe Safdie runs are very well suited for the concept of "The Studio as
School House". I think architecture/design firms have managed to retain
their tradition of trade/craft and hence apprenticeship as a way to learn
the craft from mentors. I assume, the degree of collaborative work in other
design disciplines including architecture is fairly limited as compared to
IxD. Most interns will go back to their drawing boards to be left alone to
contemplate and refine a design after a crit by the mentor with maybe a few
field trips thrown in to understand 'users of buildings' without having to
deal with a third entity. In the case of IxDers, we deal with a pretty
dominant force- that of the tech-brigade who is more than a mere
supplier...they definitely have a say in what we design and they are not
even the end user.

I wonder how the dynamics of hosting fellowships in the IxD/IA/Usability
firms would work. Especially tricky (I suspect) within IxD/Usability
groups in the software firms primarily due to the multidisciplinary nature
of our work and still-incubating standards. This is not to say, the formal
college program is the way to go, having had the experience of "studying"
IxD at a dedicated institute for IxD. Under apprenticeship, honing IxD
skills would have a very different meaning as against learning a solidly
creative craft like architecture. Learning under an able mentor does hold
promise for IxD but the IxD studio won't churn out a designer. it will NEED
to churn out a DESIGN FACILITATOR of sorts with great negotiation skills!
The "Studio as School House" model may need to be tweaked to suit our needs.
Any ideas how?

Best,
Deepak Pakhare

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