elegant.ly: LinkedIn for designers

31 Mar 2010 - 7:59pm
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Dave Cortright
2005

Jason Putorti—the ex-lead designer for mint.com—is launching a "network of design and user experience professionals for lead referrals to Internet startup companies. " It sounds like LinkedIn for desginers to me, although he is smartly leveraging your existing LinkedIn profile: You'll need one to sign up.

It's too soon to say how valuable this will be, but it can't hurt to sign up. right? Plus, I want to support him in his role as "Designer in Residence" at a VC. I think more VCs should have designers on the payroll.

http://elegant.ly

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31 Mar 2010 - 8:39pm
putorti
2010

Thanks Dave! I have a lot of ideas that are going to make this project very different than design communities and networks that have come before. I'd love any input from the community at large though.

Jason

1 Apr 2010 - 2:41am
mcaskey
2008

Quickbit of feedback: The "something I'm playing with" gave it a very personal touch, which came as a surprise, for some reason. I liked it.

-Mike

On 3/31/10 9:59 PM, novaurora wrote: > Thanks Dave! I have a lot of ideas that are going to make this project > very different than design communities and networks that have come > before. I'd love any input from the community at large though. > > Jason > >

31 Mar 2010 - 11:09pm
Dave Malouf
2005

Hi Jason,

Ok, first thing please change your options of "areas of expertise". Wow! that's kinda weird to me to see "UX Design" summed up as "Wireframes". Really? No mention of task flows, information architecture, UI design, behavior structure? There is a ton of stuff here missing.

Anyway, I put it here in case people don't want to go through the process of applying. I think in concept it is interesting, but a tad overly reductionist in an otherwise complex arena. Also, you assume that all UX Design is web design. What about embedded software? services? and hardware interfaces? All these have a UX Design element to them. Industrial Designers do UX as well.

Sorry to be so critical, but I was really taken aback by these categories.

-- dave

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1 Apr 2010 - 12:14am
Dimiter Simov
2006

I think the areas of expertise are supposed to be read and understood by people who are not designers and do not necessarily know what task flow or behavior structure mean. On the other hand, I agree that Interface design for software and hardware is missing.

1 Apr 2010 - 12:35am
putorti
2010

Happy to tweak the categories, it's not perfect, what's the suggested breakdown? I consider interface design and visual design to be the same, but happy to include both so that the specialties come out a bit more. Same with task flows / behavior structure, I consider that a bit of UX and a bit product strategy. I'd appreciate help here. Thanks!

1 Apr 2010 - 11:20am
Margaret Gould ...
2009

I'm thinking "Design Management" might also be a good category....

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:55 PM, novaurora <jason@novaurora.com> wrote:

Happy to tweak the categories, it's not perfect, what's the suggested breakdown? I consider interface design and visual design to be the same, but happy to include both so that the specialties come out a bit more. Same with task flows / behavior structure, I consider that a bit of UX and a bit product strategy. I'd appreciate help here. Thanks!

1 Apr 2010 - 12:21pm
Ivan Burmistrov
2009

Interface design and visual (graphics) design are very different professions. Smile I would suggest to separate them.

1 Apr 2010 - 1:20pm
Dan Weese
2006

So I go to log in using my LinkedIn credentials, and it's asking me for a "First Consult" fee, how I want to be compensated, etc, before I can even see what the site is all about? For all I know this is another Rent-A-Coder type site where some startup wants me to design a new eBay for $500. In my opinion, you need more beef on your entry page so people know what you're about before "Applying".

Dan

On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:56:22 -0500, Ivan Burmistrov wrote: > Interface design and visual (graphics) design are very different > professions.
>  I would suggest to separate them. > > (

1 Apr 2010 - 2:36pm
putorti
2010

Phew, alright, this is basically what you would charge for a critique session. I'm trying to eliminate people asking you to take a look at their stuff in exchange for coffee. I'm putting the expectation of value created and price up front, so no awkward conversations. I didn't user test the copy with a ton of people, but they got it. Is there a way I can communicate this better? This is not a site for rent-a-coder type people, that's what 99designs is for.

1 Apr 2010 - 5:50am
Karl Herler
2010

Looks really nice, love the idea of using your linkedIn profile.

I agree Daves comment earlier about the categories though.. and another thought occurs to me, would it be an idea to break the form down into pages (or at least sections) and give some hints that you can add more stuff later? The form seems a bit overwhelming now. at least to jr. designers.

Just my $0.02

Kal

1 Apr 2010 - 11:08am
putorti
2010

Well, it's an application, so if you don't fill it out now, tough for me to review the work. I've made it pretty light, but still enough for me to make the call. Linkedin makes it faster. Also, I'm more interested in experienced professionals that can help/consult on a high level.

1 Apr 2010 - 9:54am
ccamara
2010

A user's story:

When I saw this discussion, I was immediately interested and headed over to the site to sign up and dig around.  The first page I came to was indeed elegant (from a visual design point of view).  I saw the words "empathy, elegance, and emotion" and thought to myself, "Here is a place I want to be." 

Then I clicked the "sign in" button.

The first thing I read is a statement referring to trust.  Trust is a highly emotional word, and it is mentioned twice on the "sign in" page.  Yet, there is nothing about the design that made me feel like I should trust it.  There is even a disclaimer at the bottom telling me I should never use my LinkedIn password on any site but LinkedIn.  I can't say that I felt any positive emotions about that.

I agree that using the LinkedIn profile is helpful for this site, but we all know first impressions are important.  I must say that starting on a page that made me feel warm and fuzzy then immediately going to a page that made me question the trustworthiness and goals of the site doesn't leave a good impression on me.

 

 

1 Apr 2010 - 11:05am
putorti
2010

Okay, valid, but you aren't using your LinkedIn password on another site, you're using it on Linkedin, you can see so in the address bar. The goal of Linkedin sign in is to make it easier, zero out spam, and make sure everyone is a real person. Linkedin solves it nicely. I could use Facebook or something else but you have the same problem, i.e. why does this guy want my social graph, crazy photos, etc. Linkedin is a professional network so it fits the paradigm.

1 Apr 2010 - 3:51pm
Dave Malouf
2005

Hi Jason,

First off, I didn't say this clearly enough before. I think you have the makings of a great idea and the framing of the design is totally on target. I think messaging might be a bit more important than "categories". The content frame is unclear and thus I don't know how to respond, per se.

E.g. if you asked. "What skills do you sell?" And created that list, it might be less controversial. It might be longer, which is a negative possibly, but definitely less controversial. Another way to frame that item is to remove UX as an item. I say this b/c you framed the entire site around UX, so everyone is a user experience designer on the site, so having that "expertise" is redundant. Which is why I felt that the annotation of "wireframes" next to UX made that sound really limiting, since that was the more "real" reference for me. And as someone who doesn't really do wireframes anymore it was also really confusing.

another angle to think about is type of projects: web, software, mobile, services, hardware, etc.

I realize these are areas of complication that need to be managed, so I'm mostly giving you a more reasonable mental model than my original criticism.

Hope this is more helpful.

-- dave

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