Re: [IxDA] Where to send an open letter to the OS-designers at Apple and Microsoft?

7 Oct 2010 - 9:52am
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Jack L. Moffett

On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Santiago Bustelo wrote:

> My humble suggestion is to "discard" items, hiding them on the file browser, and allowing them to be recovered at any time, until the disk space needs to be reclaimed:

And isn't that what Apple's Time Machine has done for us?


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7 Oct 2010 - 12:11pm
Josh B Williams

You want the system to do this automatically?
It may cause more confusion if files disappeared on their own. I agree with Jack. The user archiving files using a backup program, seems like it would address the issue of clutter.


7 Oct 2010 - 8:20pm
Santiago Bustelo

Good point, Jack. Apple's Time Machine solves a similar, but different problem and scenario.

Because the backup process takes snapshots at fixed intervals of one hour, Time Machine won't undelete a file created at 00:01 and deleted at 00:59. A trashcan alternative should manage such situations.

But even if it the backup was event driven (e.g., backing up files as they were moved from a folder), Time Machine's recovery interface establishes a mode. That is appropiate for a recovery / history / versioning interface that is used once in a while. For a trashcan replacement, it is overkill to say the least.

Deleting and recovering files should not be managed by different interfaces, not to say different applications.


Santiago Bustelo
IxDA Buenos Aires

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