I can appreciate many of the views shared here. My last post about Engineering IS Design IS Engineering was meant to prompt discussion. It did a little bit. My overall take on this subject is that we are in need of some serious stepping back and re-evaluation of all the disciplines. Take the Stanford site is an interesting case study. They don't help the world by having a design program named, of all things Design. What kind? What department? Graphic, Industrial, Product, ME.