Discussion Archive: September 2004

7 Sep 2004 - 2:08am
12 years ago
8 replies
ji kim

Cultural sensitivity

While doing a research for mobile phones, I cam across "fashion mobile phones" from
a company called Xelibri (http://www.xelibri.com). They were nice looking phones, until I heard one of the ringtone called "tokyo" from one their phones. Let's just say, ringtone played a melody that western media used to (and still does) depict people from east asian region (china, korea, japan,etc.). Most asians would consider it very racist (or very ignorant).

7 Sep 2004 - 12:11am
Frank Ramirez

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6 Sep 2004 - 4:07pm
12 years ago
2 replies

Re: making the imagined real

Jef Raskin:

> But the better engineer does not shirk the more exacting task of making sure
> bridges don't collapse and will turn to the mathematics of trusses and data on
> the strengths and weaknesses of steel and concrete.

Yes, I appreciate that, but "expertise" is neither a guarantee nor a
predictor of success.

Our family had a close call on 9/11. So I think of the WTCs quite a bit. I'm
sure a lot of math and science was used by experts while designing the WTCs,
and but 3,000 people died when they collapsed.

6 Sep 2004 - 10:49am
12 years ago
2 replies
Jef Raskin

making the imagined real

On Sep 6, 2004, at 1:06 AM, Listera wrote:
> Jef Raskin:
>> What does the dreadful OSX have to do with this discussion?
> It's an actually-shipping OS, the one I and, I suspect, many others on
> this
> list happen to be using. I wasn't aware that the discussion was about
> imaginary OSes.

We were a bit at cross-purposes, then. My apologies for any
misunderstanding. I shall explain:

I was talking about how we should design interfaces.

6 Sep 2004 - 10:19am
12 years ago
4 replies
Dave Malouf

What makes a good IxD? (RE: A well-argued reply.)

Hi Jef & Andrei,

I think the direction that you are both going in is one where He who has the
most expertise the better. To me this is a nonfunctional truism.

Of course if I have a BFA (industrial design) (minor in CS), MS (in HCI),
and an MBA then I would of course be an ideal candidate. Oh!

6 Sep 2004 - 9:19am
12 years ago
36 replies
Elizabeth Buie

Cut and Paste vs. Move (was: Make it quantitative...)

I'd like to describe a few of the ways I use Cut and Paste and why I would
not like to see it replaced by Move (as I understand Move, from current
experience). Before I do that, I'll admit that I have been following this
thread at a high level, skimming some posts (the ad hominem tone of some
of them disturbs me) and reading some of them in reasonable depth... so I
may be bringing up things that others have mentioned already. If so, I
hope you guys will forgive me.


Take away Cut and Paste? You'll have to pry it from my cold dead fingers.

5 Sep 2004 - 7:43pm
12 years ago
5 replies
Jef Raskin

A well-argued reply.

I wrote that quantitative design techniques are often of great utility,
and that to have only the skills in Andrei's list of desiderata is not

Andrei's admirably short reply:

> Yes it is.

I am getting the impression that Andrei has a tendency to think that
his strengths (presumably on the visual/conceptual side) are the only
essential elements in interface design and that where he does not have
skills (e.g.

5 Sep 2004 - 4:01pm
Pete Gordon - U...

[PLUG] Experiences with Morae, VisualMark, etc?

> The sweetest one to come is FaceTop:

That does look great (great choice of platform, also!). The alpha
blend (transparency) is a standard feature in Quicktime.

5 Sep 2004 - 3:41pm
12 years ago
3 replies
Christian Simon

Programming and IxD (was- Help: Looking for another me)

on 9/5/04 12:00, wrote:
>> Can I be a programmer and an IxD?
> "Can Programmers Do Interaction Design?" by Kim Goodwin (Cooper)
> http://www.cooper.com/content/insights/newsletters/2003_08/Can_Programme
> rs_Do_Interaction_Design.asp

Programmers can design programs and interaction very effectively.

5 Sep 2004 - 10:38am
Dave Malouf

ADMIN: Technical Difficulties

Hello there folks,

I must apologize as there have been some technical difficulties this past
week (Aug 30th till Sept 5) regarding the list. Many might have noticed that
some e-mails they had sent did not come back or they were expecting
responses from others that didn't come through.

What occured was that moderation requests from the list were not coming to
me and thus not being dealt with.