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29 Jan 2004 - 5:06pm
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vutpakdi
2003

Wireframe Tools (Canvas). Was: How to Get Into ... Best Job Title

Just a side comment before we get back to our currently scheduled heated
discussion (or is it a flamefest now?).

> On Illustrator, yeah, I've heard the argument "Illustrator wasn't meant
> for multiple pages, InDesign was..." That's all well and good, but
> there's a very large audience using Illustrator for IA work. InDesign
> wasn't meant for drawing. What do you do when you have 80 drawings that
> you need to send to a client in a PDF? Make 80 .ai files and import
> them into InDesign - that's a workflow nightmare.

29 Jan 2004 - 5:04pm
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Dave Malouf
2005

ADMIN: Digest options (complaints received)

Hey there IxDers!

So funny, someone asked me about a month ago to look at the digest
functionality of our list and give him/her some advice about how to make it
work better for them. It was the first time I subscribed as a digest user
(never really saw the point if I have a folder w/ a filter; same effect,
better results) and realized what was happening.

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29 Jan 2004 - 4:52pm
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10 years ago
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Andrew Otwell
2004

Re: aesthetics and objectivity

Bob Baxley wrote:

> I definitely take exception to this statement on two fronts. First, visual
> design is NOT subjective -- unless it's decoration, in which case it's not
> design.

29 Jan 2004 - 4:46pm
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Andrei Herasimchuk
2004

Quick Note

Quick note to everyone.

I am notoriously bad about proofing my messages. I can see after
reading back through my messages I'm doing "classic Andrei," which is
to say trailing off sentences, leaving out whole words, and not fixing
the numerous grammar and typographical errors. My apologies.

I tend to do a lot in the day, and cram email in between meetings and
other projects, so I tend to overlook these flaws more often than I
should. One of these days, I'll learn how to type correctly. (I type
using only five fingers, three on the left hand and two on the right.

29 Jan 2004 - 4:44pm
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10 years ago
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Andrew Otwell
2004

re: aesthetics and objectivity (was :: How to Get Into ... Best Job Title)

On Jan 29, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Todd R.Warfel wrote:

>> I would agree that Google is hardly a UI masterpiece from a visual
>> design perspective...

Why should it be? How and why might you change it?

One could say that Google, like eBay (and arguably like George W. Bush)
has a brand that explicitly minimizes sophistication and complexity.
Appearing not just straightforward, but a bit unsophisticated may in
fact be appealing to many users who equate subtle design with
"fancyness" or "highbrow".

andrew

29 Jan 2004 - 3:03pm
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Todd Warfel
2003

Re: Is Design an Objective Pursuit?

Part of me wishes visual design wasn't typically seen as so subjective.
But then again, part of me enjoys that.

I don't honestly believe that its entirely one or the other, but a
balance of both. And that's not to give a copout answer. My background
is in art - visual design. But my education is in English and Cognitive
Psych. My PhD work is in Information Science (Communications/HCI). So,
for me personally, I can see both the aesthetic arguments and harder,
scientific evidence arguments. It's a tough balance.

29 Jan 2004 - 2:22pm
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IdoShavit
2004

: interface vs interaction [was: How to Get Into ... Best Job Title]

This discussion, which seems to have hit a soft spot with many of us,
reminded me of something that I'm sure will put a smile on your face.
It is from around 4 years ago, when it was trendy in the design community to
oppose Jakob "Useit" Nielsen.

29 Jan 2004 - 2:10pm
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10 years ago
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Bob Baxley
2004

Is Design an Objective Pursuit?

Todd,

So you and I are hearing different stories about Apple. My sources
however are a bit out of date so I'll defer to yours. Either way, I
think we can agree that the determining factor in Apple's success is
the creative vision and leadership of Mr. Jobs.

As for visual design, while I agree that it is generally equated with
style, that doesn't mean it has to be. It is up to us as a community to
educate our clients and consumers about the real value and meaning of
design.

29 Jan 2004 - 1:30pm
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10 years ago
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Ted Booth
2004

Re: Education formal or informal or both

On the other hand, the benefits of 'going the academic' path as a way
to get into interaction design:
1) you get structured exposure to a wide range of concepts, techniques
and principles in a very short amount of time
2) you are challenged to learn, produce and explore in a much more wide
ranging and rigorous manner than in the commercial world
3) and, depending on your institution of choice, it can be *very*based
in practice, in the doing of the work, as well as knowing the theory
behind it
4) plus, you leave with a formal degree which generally gives you a leg
up over other job-seeker

29 Jan 2004 - 12:11pm
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a h andrew
2004

Re: Menu caption design (Sandeep Jain)

Another option is to have a history window similar to
Photoshop's. Keep the menu name short (Either "Undo"
or "Undo Move"), but in the history window have a
longer description "Undo Move Zone A", using the
guidelines Jim outline below for the best terminology.

To "argue this with your engineering manager", you
might try to pointing to existing applications. Remind
them of how they don't like to see non-standard menu
names, or how unwieldy (or helpful!) a particular name
might be. Try to point to specific resources that back
you up.

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